Kevin, What is a stored outline (I'm probably showing my ignorance here)? thank you Gene Gurevich Oracle Engineering 224-405-4079 "Kevin Lidh" <kevin.lidh@gmail .com> To Sent by: dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx oracle-l-bounce@f cc reelists.org oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject Re: Primary Key seems to be harmful 03/09/2006 08:33 for performance AM Please respond to kevin.lidh@gmail. com We've used stored outlines in situations where we couldn't modify SQL because it was owned by a third party who threatened to not support the product if any "anauthorized" changes were made and changing statistics or dropping/adding indexes wasn't an option. Fortunately it's not a wide-spread problem (11 SQL out of tens of thousands). Not the ideal solution but it works for us. On 3/8/06, Nuno Souto <dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Quoting genegurevich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: > in over 2 hours. After looking at the results of the tkprof, I decided to > disable one of the primary keys. After that the "one of the primary keys"? That would be of one of the tables? > same query completed in 10 seconds (!). I have reenabled the PK and query > ran for much longer (I cancelled it after 10 minues). I have disabled the > PK and again the SQL finished in 10 sec. > > So it looks like PK is a problem performace-wise. How do I fix it? I don't > want to drop that PK; I think that it is needed to make > sure there is no duplicates and from the DM perspective as well. I was > wondering whether this is a symptom of some problem with the statistics? > Does anyone have any suggestions? Without any specific data on execution plans, all I can reasonably suggest is that you use a function in the query to disable use of the pk index by the optimizer. Something like the traditional use of a nvl() around the leading column(s) of the index, or concatenating a null to a string or adding 0 (zero) to a number column. All of them classical ways of making the optimizer ignore a particular index. You could of course use a hint as well. That'd be a safer propposition than dropping a PK and losing uniqueness checks? -- Cheers Nuno Souto from sunny Sydney -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l