RE: Oracle out the door

  • From: "Matthew Zito" <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <derek.rodner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <jeremy.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <jhthomp@xxxxxxxxx>, <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:29:25 -0400

Not so small, due to the way SE is licensed - SE is *per socket*, not
"per cpu", so you can get four of the nice new quad-core processors and
max those out and get a fair bit of performance from even a two node
setup.  Of course, you lose the various EE options, but everything is a
tradeoff.

 

If you're really concerned about Oracle licensing as well, you could
always have multiple two-node SE clusters and partition your data across
them (I understand this is ugly and requires a lot of effort, but if
your primary concern is staying on Oracle while minimizing licensing
costs, this is an option).  I know of one very large oracle shop that
does this - they have in the low hundreds of RAC SE clusters (according
to them, I have not independently verified this).

 

Matt

 

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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Derek Rodner
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:06 PM
To: Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx; jeremy.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
jhthomp@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Oracle out the door

 

Right, but SE is maxxed out at 4 procs, so it will be a very small RAC
configuration.

 

Am I able to attach files to emails on this list?  (just curious)

 

Derek M. Rodner

Director, Marketing

EnterpriseDB Corporation

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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allen, Brandon
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:53 PM
To: jeremy.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; jhthomp@xxxxxxxxx;
oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Oracle out the door

 

I believe RAC is included with SE in 10g+, at least according to page 3
of this doc
http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/databaselicensing.pdf:

 

"Effective with the release of 10g, the Oracle Database Standard Edition
product includes the Real Applications Clusters database option."

 

Extra maintenance costs are a different story - I've never run RAC so
can't comment on that.

 

Regards,

Brandon

 

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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeremy Schneider

 

  I can't imagine that you need to be paying those extra tens of
thousands of dollars for RAC; won't the extra licensing and maintenance
costs of RAC come out about the same as those three servers your
eliminating?

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