Re: Oracle certification - Worth the hard work?
- From: "Helen J Mitchell" <helenjmitchell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:00:19 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: Helen J Mitchell
To: klange@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Oracle certification - Worth the hard work?
I disagree with this opinion about "pretty much lets me knows that you can
take a test".
For me taking the test verified to me that I had a broad scope of knowledge.
More importantly, it did make the difference for me in today's competent job
market.
Even more important is that this information will assist you in making
numerous process improvements.
Any DBA will have the experience of agitated users and nervous upper
managers.
Those situations are commonplace and you will learn to diffuse them ... part
of the daily job.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Lange
To: oracle-l
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: Oracle certification - Worth the hard work?
A certificate in this prety much lets me know that you can take a test, it
does not tell me a damn thing about if you can do the job.
Just because you can read a book and regurgetate the information back up
onto a piece of paper does not mean that you can handle the day to day
workings of a DBA or handle users in a manner that does not a) Piss them off
to no end or b) Give them everything they want and the expense of everyone
else. It also does not show me that you can handle the high pressure oh so
fun situation of having 100 upper management types calling you at 5 am
wondering why the production database is down and how long it is going to
take you to put it back up. And it surely does not show me that you know
how to handle the 100 other things that can go wrong that are just not
covered in anything but life experience.
Experience over Certification any day.
My order of hiring is :
a) Experience + Certification.
b) Experience Without Certification.
c) Newbie + Certification.
d) Newbie Without Certification.
-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Carlos Reyes Pacheco [mailto:juancarlosreyesp@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:55 PM
To: jim_kennedy@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: gogala@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; davewendelken@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l
Subject: Re: Oracle certification - Worth the hard work?
a) I can tell that definitively I had got a very positive benefit from
certification.
b) If I would have had a tutor previously to introduce to few key
topics, maybe I woudln't need the certification.
c) Even after the certification I need Tom Kytes advice.
d) The certification is only +1 in the evaluation.
Not only to hire the dba, else when you are working as a contract
business is important to show your personnel has a certification.
e) The certification, when there is a problem, gives you more credibility.
What do you think?
If I'm a doctor and I cut your leg, because I say you can die, and I
don't have a certification in that speciality, or if I have, which
will be the difference?
So if you certify better for you and for your boss.
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