*Any halfway decent lawyer is going to be able to defend SAP. All he has
to do is point to language in the support contract permitting access and
questioning how Oracle can definitively proof it was being used in an
unauthorized fashion - regarless of how much stuff they took or what they
did with it afterwards.*
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*And if he's a really good lawyer, he's probably hired an investigator who
is going to claim that Oracle has been doing the same thing to SAP servers
multiple times in the recent past. *
**
*You're right - this thing will drag on for months and years - and likely
be settled out of court, if at all.*
**
*Shame on Oracle for not putting some kind of governor on the volume of
material being downloaded by a single user in a given period.....*
**
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Michael Fontana
NTT/Verio
Senior Database Administrator
mfontana@xxxxxxxxx
214.853.7405(Office)
214.912.3705(Wireless)
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*From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Richard J. Goulet
*Sent:* Fri 3/23/2007 11:06 AM
*To:* Rodd.Holman@xxxxxxxxx; oracle.rdbms@xxxxxxxxx
*Cc:* oracle-l
*Subject:* RE: Oracle Vs SAP Round 1
If you've the resources, and knowledge there are ways to browse
through parts of a web site that you "should not have access to".
That's how hackers create their "fame". And those tools are available
on the web especially if you know where to find them. As far as source
code is concerned, if you know the programming environment that created
them then de-compiling the code is a lot easier, and there isn't a
software vendor out there that does not prohibit decompilition. What is
probably going to be the worse of all this is the "guilt by accusation"
that's going to occur. People buying software and/or support are going
to see this gorilla in the closet & wonder if their getting contaminated
software or that the support their expecting simply evaporates. I've
seen this happen before, it took what we thought was the best product
for the job off of the table even though the case had not yet been heard
in court. And I doubt very seriously that this gets resolved before the
end of the year.
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-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On
Behalf Of Rodd Holman
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:59 AM
To: oracle.rdbms@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: oracle-l
Subject: Re: Oracle Vs SAP Round 1
Good question. This appears to be related to the PeopleSoft and
JDEdwards apps. Apparently they got in using privileged client access
to the help site ??metalink?? and downloaded stuff they shouldn't have.
How they got source code even through that is beyond me.
Sinardy Xing wrote:
> How on earth Oracle source code can be access from out side Oracle
> network?
>
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