Nuno, If your big enough you can always negotiate. In the end, money talks, bullshit walks ;-) regards, -- Freek D'Hooge Uptime Oracle Database Administrator email: freek.dhooge@xxxxxxxxx tel +32(03) 451 23 82 http://www.uptime.be disclaimer: www.uptime.be/disclaimer.html On wo, 2013-10-16 at 22:11 +1100, Nuno Souto wrote: > On 15/10/2013 5:58 PM, D'Hooge Freek wrote: > > > * you need to license all physical machines in the vcenter cluster (DRS > > rules are not a valid way to limit the number of physical servers to be > > licensed, regardless vmware states about this) > > > The reasoning for the second is that, according to the processor > > definition, you install the Oracle software on all physical servers in > > the same vcenter cluster (yes, that is what they told me) > > > > Not sure if this last reasoning will uphold in court, but unless you are > > prepared to go to court over this, you better follow it. > > > > We did. And it turned out either Oracle considered licensing all cores > in a host in our cluster - the exact words in their documents - or else > they'd be in legal trouble as well as minus quite a lot of moolah in > maintenance and licensing fees. > So now, our middleware is nicely licensed to run in a single host in a > BIG vmware cluster and we only paid the core licenses of that host. > Which is perfectly legit, IMHO. > Of course: YMMV, no animals hurt in testing this product, etcetc... > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l