May be this is a right time to ask.... Do we need to purchase license for *non production servers* where Oracle database is installed? I have heard many answers (listed below) over last 15 years including Oracle reps and will love to get a definitive answers. - No license purchase is necessary for non prod instances - Yes, but only after the project goes live - unlimited non prod licenses are covered by becoming Oracle partner - Yes but never bother as Oracle never bothers about Auditing non prod instances - Test instances are treated just like prod instances. Above scenarios applies to Dev instances only - Probably there are few other answers that I can't remember The Oracle database licensing doc is here in case http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/databaselicensing-070584.pdf it helps! Thanks Paresh 416-688-1003 On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM, D'Hooge Freek <Freek.DHooge@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Jeremy, > > I won't argue with you about how insane the reasoning is, but this is > what Oracle LMS stated after a license review of a client. > Trust me, I have battled with Oracle about this... > > But as stated before, the only valid source for license rules is Oracle > LMS (and make sure you have it in writing). > > regards, > > -- > Freek D'Hooge > Uptime > Oracle Database Administrator > email: freek.dhooge@xxxxxxxxx > tel +32(03) 451 23 82 > http://www.uptime.be > disclaimer: www.uptime.be/disclaimer.html > > > > > On di, 2013-10-15 at 10:49 -0500, Jeremy Schneider wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:58 AM, D'Hooge Freek > > <Freek.DHooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > * you need to license all physical machines in the vcenter > > cluster (DRS > > rules are not a valid way to limit the number of physical > > servers to be > > licensed, regardless vmware states about this) > > > > The reasoning for the second is that, according to the > > processor > > definition, you install the Oracle software on all physical > > servers in > > the same vcenter cluster (yes, that is what they told me) > > > > > > > > > > IMHO, that's clearly incorrect from a technical perspective. Oracle's > > software investment guide does discuss how having the binaries > > installed on a standby server means the server must be licensed > > (compare illustration 4 with illustration 6). But a VMware cluster is > > illustration 4 and not illustration 6. It functions like HACMP, HP > > Service Guard or Veritas which are all explicitly mentioned in this > > category and which don't require licensing the failover server if you > > meet the stated conditions. Now these requirements for getting out of > > license costs are very strict: in addition to the 10-day limit, you > > also are allowed to only have one "standby" node - if the cluster has > > more than two nodes then all but one must be licensed. Honestly I > > suspect that in 99% of cases, customers do need to license the entire > > VMware cluster because their cluster doesn't meet the definition of a > > failover cluster - so I'm not surprised this would be the usual answer > > from LMS. Definitely need to read carefully and of course discuss > > with Oracle. > > > > > > -Jeremy > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://about.me/jeremy_schneider > > > > > > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l