Hi Robert,
Yes, EM covers all of it and I did do a quick search and locate the PDF
that, (at least at a high level) mentions that:
http://www.oracle.com/webfolder/technetwork/exadata/maa-bestp/patching/patch.pdf
The EM13c has a better interface for monitoring, managing and patching
Exadata, too. I covered it only briefly this week at HotSos, but I really
like the enhancements that were put into this area.
Kellyn
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Robert Freeman <rfreeman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Exadata patching has MUCH improved, and there were growing pains - that is
for sure.
I've always said - show me a data centers technology stack as currently up
to date as an Exadata box is after a quarterly patch has been applied.
Frankly, I miss working on Exadata.
I liked the idea of OPlan when it came out, but I always found that some
of the restrictions prevented me from using it.... I'm sure most of them
are gone now.
Kellyn - Does OEM now handle the whole patch (cells, switches, etc) , or
is it still just doing the OS and Database side patching only? It's been
almost a year now since I did my last patch.
Of course the problem I had too was that I was dealing with government...
who didn't typically want any internet connection and a OEM presence was a
luxury... :)
RF
On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Kellyn Pot'Vin-Gorman <dbakevlar@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
<Visibly rolls eyes>
"Now knows no one on Oracle-l has been coming to her EM12c and EM13c
sessions on patching"... :)
When Oracle support folks patch an Exadata, they just build and submit a
patch plan for Exadatas these days. I remember spending my last day at a
company back in 2010 patching an Exadata for over 13 hrs and pretty much
sacrificing a small animal afterwards because nothing went wrong. Now
days, it really is quite easy to run a report, see what is available for
patching, build a patch plan from it and submit it.
Thank you for giving me another topic I need to cover in blog posts... :)
Kellyn
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Chris Stephens <cstephens16@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
"during my years of Exadata patching"
that is painful to read. patching seems to be a major piece of working
with Exadata. that is really odd to me. if oracle controls the whole
stack, why can't they simplify the patching process?
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Robert Freeman <
rfreeman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If used properly, I think Platinum is a great resource. The quality of
the technicians are sometimes of question – I agree there. However, if you
don’t like the one you have, then you can always request another. I also
think that the biggest problems I’ve seen were with the customers who were
the most hands off. I think one place people miss out on when engaging
Platinum support is by taking advantage of the material and process that
they have and learn about what they are doing. Be as involved in the
process and ask questions. Let them do the heavy lifting but use the freed
time to learn about the whole patching process. At first, patching can seem
daunting, but once you have done it a couple of times (and have really dug
into the dirty details like checking for bugs in the current patch set,
etc) then it ends up not being all that complex.
I have a great checklist that I built during my years of Exadata
patching. In it, more time is probably spent reading documentation (and
subtle changes in the process do occur during various time so you always
need to re-read the numerous documents). The volume of material can be so
daunting that sometimes Platinum will miss something subtle in a new patch.
I have a couple of fun stories there but I can’t really tell them.
*From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Mayen Shah
*Sent:* Friday, March 11, 2016 11:30 AM
*To:* rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: Oracle Exadata Top Three Selling points
Even though quality of oracle platinum team support/monitoring/patching
is questionable, that is added benefit.
*From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;<oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
Behalf Of *rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Sent:* Friday, March 11, 2016 12:19 PM
*To:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Oracle Exadata Top Three Selling points
I've put in a request for (2) Exadata 1/2 rack server (prod / dr ) and
(2) 1/4 rack Exadata servers (SIT / DEV). My negotiation stated with full
racks (really wanted 1/2 racks). It's moving forward to what I really want.
Our current environment is 40+ Oracle 9i - 11g databases on what ever
hardware the customer could pull together. So, there are a couple solaris
boxes, quite a few windows database server and a linux server. each
database running on it's own server. My evil plan is to pull the customer
into 2016 kicking and screaming, migrating all these databases to 12C PDB
to create a private DB cloud. The DBA, development staff and director is
supporing my efforts.
Now my director is asking for the three top bullet points to take to his
boss. On why we should go to Exadata.
What are your top three reasons to move to exadata. I want this to be
strong; so there is quite likely some things I have not thought about.
- Performance.
- Operational maintenance (one big server as apposed to 40+ servers
scattered over diffrent versions and OS's)
- Make the DBA staff happy. :-)
-Rob
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