I am 90% sure the 600k figure does include database licensing. Thanks, Matt -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goulet, Richard Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:52 PM To: kmoore@xxxxxxxxxxxx; chris.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; exriscer@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Oracle Exadata Machine "Does the $600K figure include licensing? I saw a quote somewhere and don't remember the details but do remember that the Oracle database licensing cost was more than the hardware cost. Shocking!!" Sorry to say, but that has been a boat anchor around Oracle's neck for some time now. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA PAREXEL International -----Original Message----- From: Keith Moore [mailto:kmoore@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:37 PM To: chris.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Goulet, Richard; exriscer@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Oracle Exadata Machine Does the $600K figure include licensing? I saw a quote somewhere and don't remember the details but do remember that the Oracle database licensing cost was more than the hardware cost. Shocking!! :-) And when you factor in the possible discounts, it's very difficult to get an accurate price unless you're in actual purchase negotiations. What I have seen is that in general the prices of specialized data appliances run in the $500K to $2M range or possible more. FWIW, I'm a shareholder in both Oracle and Neteeza in addition to being an Oracle DBA. Keith >> I was just curious. I sat in a presentation during Collaborate and saw >> the $600K figure and it kind of seemed like a good deal for the hardware >> configuration (but I don't have the numbers for a similar rack either). >> >> The thing that really gets you is that the storage on this rack is ONLY >> for Oracle I believe. I don't think you can use the storage for other >> servers, however, I could be mistaken as I didn't think to ask the >> Oracle guy during the presentation. >> >> >> Chris Taylor >> Sr. Oracle DBA >> Ingram Barge Company >> Nashville, TN 37205 >> Office: 615-517-3355 >> Cell: 615-354-4799 >> Email: chris.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l