Re: Oracle Certified Master
- From: Howard Latham <howard.latham@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:18:28 +0100
Ofcourse they have! I find 25 years with the product helps! (but it is a
bit alarming!)
On 27 September 2010 20:47, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I suspect that Oracle has positioned the OCM program so that mostly only
> Oracle personnel earn that certification. Theoretically, anyone can earn it
> if they spend the money, but very few companies will pay that much money for
> one of their people to get that certification. I suspect that the vast
> majority of OCM's earned it while working for Oracle.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Upendra N <nupendra@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Well.. on top of the $3000, when you add the requirement to take 2 OU
>> classes, that's another $6000-$7000, it certainly is a ripoff.
>>
>> -Upendra
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: william.muriithi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > To: sacrophyte@xxxxxxxxx
>> > CC: tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:55:27 -0500
>> > Subject: Re: Oracle Certified Master
>>
>> >
>> > Charles,
>> >
>> > To some extent, I do think hands-on exams are better/more prestigious
>> than paper based exams. They are more dependable in demonstrating a
>> candidate competence in real life scenarios. Seriously, most of the paper
>> based exams can be easily acquired without even having worked with oracle.
>> You just need to read widely. And in my opinion, I think thats precisely the
>> purpose of paper based exam. Its no good to also have a narrow and deep
>> understanding of a product as some of the peripheral information that may
>> not seem to practical may improve a candidate practical skills.
>> >
>> > If we can agree on the need of hands-on exams, its then natural to
>> assume a price of $200 is not realistic. So, what would be a more realistic
>> price. RHCE cost around $700 for a one day exam. A 5 days class + exam cost
>> $3000. CCIE, I think cost around $3000 for 2 days exam. I tend to think
>> $1400 would be fair, may be $2000. From $3000, it start feeling like a rip
>> off. Anyway, look like the market can support those prices, so I do not
>> think anything is going to change any day soon.
>> >
>> > William
>> > On 2010-09-27, at 8:40 AM, Charles Schultz wrote:
>> >
>> > > Tim has hit it on the head. If Oracle University were to drop the
>> price to $200 and relabel it as the Oracle Certified Professional and get
>> rid of the so-called "hands-on" (aka, pay uber bucks for a mediocre OU
>> class) requirements, I think the certification would be a lot more credible,
>> practical and meaningful. As it stands now, it is an obvious pocket-lining
>> racket.
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 00:46, Tim Hall <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > Hi.
>> > >
>> > > The OCM is a 2 day practical exam. You actually have to do things with
>> the database. It's not a multiple choice exam like the other certifications.
>> As a result, it actually proves you can use Oracle for the tested scenarios.
>> > >
>> > > The 2 day practical exam is very expensive. Added to this there is a
>> requirement to attend two Oracle University courses, which means the the
>> total cost is very high indeed. Of all the database certifications I think
>> OCM is the most meaningful, but I refuse to pay that sort of money out of my
>> own pocket. If an employer paid for me to do it that would be a different
>> story.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > >
>> > > Tim...
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Guillermo Alan Bort <
>> cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > Hi List,
>> > >
>> > > I know there is at least one OCM here so I think this question may be
>> answered. I certified OCA 10g back in 2007, OCP 10g in 2009 and am going to
>> certify OCP11g in February 2011. Other than going into other certification
>> paths, I understand that the next step would be OCM. The level of experience
>> and understanding required for OCA and OCP are fairly low (a couple of years
>> of experience and reading one of the certification guidebooks was more than
>> enough) My question goes now to Oracle Certified Master... what does this
>> certification entail? how is the exam? is it just a more complex version of
>> the OCA/OCP exam or are there actual questions to answer? Is there a
>> practical part of the exam? What are the focus points for OCM certification?
>> How has it affected your professional possibilities?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in advance
>> > > Alan.-
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Charles Schultz
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
>> >
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> Andrew W. Kerber
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