Re: Oracle Certified Master
- From: Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: nupendra@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:47:57 -0500
I suspect that Oracle has positioned the OCM program so that mostly only
Oracle personnel earn that certification. Theoretically, anyone can earn it
if they spend the money, but very few companies will pay that much money for
one of their people to get that certification. I suspect that the vast
majority of OCM's earned it while working for Oracle.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Upendra N <nupendra@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well.. on top of the $3000, when you add the requirement to take 2 OU
> classes, that's another $6000-$7000, it certainly is a ripoff.
>
> -Upendra
>
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> > From: william.muriithi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: sacrophyte@xxxxxxxxx
> > CC: tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:55:27 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Oracle Certified Master
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> >
> > Charles,
> >
> > To some extent, I do think hands-on exams are better/more prestigious
> than paper based exams. They are more dependable in demonstrating a
> candidate competence in real life scenarios. Seriously, most of the paper
> based exams can be easily acquired without even having worked with oracle.
> You just need to read widely. And in my opinion, I think thats precisely the
> purpose of paper based exam. Its no good to also have a narrow and deep
> understanding of a product as some of the peripheral information that may
> not seem to practical may improve a candidate practical skills.
> >
> > If we can agree on the need of hands-on exams, its then natural to assume
> a price of $200 is not realistic. So, what would be a more realistic price.
> RHCE cost around $700 for a one day exam. A 5 days class + exam cost $3000.
> CCIE, I think cost around $3000 for 2 days exam. I tend to think $1400 would
> be fair, may be $2000. From $3000, it start feeling like a rip off. Anyway,
> look like the market can support those prices, so I do not think anything is
> going to change any day soon.
> >
> > William
> > On 2010-09-27, at 8:40 AM, Charles Schultz wrote:
> >
> > > Tim has hit it on the head. If Oracle University were to drop the price
> to $200 and relabel it as the Oracle Certified Professional and get rid of
> the so-called "hands-on" (aka, pay uber bucks for a mediocre OU class)
> requirements, I think the certification would be a lot more credible,
> practical and meaningful. As it stands now, it is an obvious pocket-lining
> racket.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 00:46, Tim Hall <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > The OCM is a 2 day practical exam. You actually have to do things with
> the database. It's not a multiple choice exam like the other certifications.
> As a result, it actually proves you can use Oracle for the tested scenarios.
> > >
> > > The 2 day practical exam is very expensive. Added to this there is a
> requirement to attend two Oracle University courses, which means the the
> total cost is very high indeed. Of all the database certifications I think
> OCM is the most meaningful, but I refuse to pay that sort of money out of my
> own pocket. If an employer paid for me to do it that would be a different
> story.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Tim...
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Guillermo Alan Bort <
> cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hi List,
> > >
> > > I know there is at least one OCM here so I think this question may be
> answered. I certified OCA 10g back in 2007, OCP 10g in 2009 and am going to
> certify OCP11g in February 2011. Other than going into other certification
> paths, I understand that the next step would be OCM. The level of experience
> and understanding required for OCA and OCP are fairly low (a couple of years
> of experience and reading one of the certification guidebooks was more than
> enough) My question goes now to Oracle Certified Master... what does this
> certification entail? how is the exam? is it just a more complex version of
> the OCA/OCP exam or are there actual questions to answer? Is there a
> practical part of the exam? What are the focus points for OCM certification?
> How has it affected your professional possibilities?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Alan.-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Charles Schultz
> >
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> >
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