RE: Oracle (11g) on Solaris X86 - bad move?
- From: "John Hallas" <john.hallas@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Alex Gorbachev" <ag@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:23:21 -0000
Thanks Alex,
Yours was the only response to the list but I had 3 private messages all
basically agreeing with what I see as a major concern.
One sentence seems to summarise the situation "However, the lack of
direction and support from Oracle on certifying EBS on Solaris-x86 has
been a barrier for us to come to the final decision".
Whilst not wanting to go too specifically into our situation the client
has selected Oracle as the database of choice and the x86 chip as best
bang for the buck. I personally think that the o/s should be Linux, but
that requires a major sea-change for the client. Before I raised the
issue I wanted to be sure that I was not a voice in the wilderness and
easily shot down. I don't think that is the case.
The application code is pretty o/s independent anyway as you pointed out
it should be.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: gorbyx@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:gorbyx@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex
Gorbachev
Sent: 10 December 2007 03:15
To: John Hallas
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Oracle (11g) on Solaris X86 - bad move?
Couldn't answer all your concerns. but here are my two cents as there
is no other replies.
I heard mixed responses about Solaris x86 from Oracle and non-Oracle
related but I can't confirm from my practical experience. Yes, runs
great on my home PC but that's just a toy.
You said they develop based on Solaris x86. These days (I should have
said many years), there are practically no reason to keep application
running on the same host as database unless it's written in APEX or
something "inseparable" from the database. This means that their
mid-tier OS should not depend on database OS and should work equally
well with Oracle server on Windows or Linux.
On Dec 7, 2007 5:45 AM, John Hallas <john.hallas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> We are developing a new system based on the Solaris X86 chip
(performance is
> key) and I am becoming increasing concerned about the lack of support
from
> Oracle for that platform. The chipset and o/s is a customer choice and
as
> far as I am aware is non-negotiable
>
>
>
> 11g is still not available for it. It has been available on Sparc for
at
> least 6 weeks and almost every other flavor of Unix for as long if not
much
> longer
>
> Patch 10.2.0.3 is not available for X86 and yet has been available for
Sparc
> for months
>
> Note 335063.1 - Installing 10gr2 Change Permissions On Oracle Home
which
> advises the installation of patch 4516865. This was released for
Sparc in
> April 2006 but is not available for X86 as yet (and I am certain it is
still
> required).
>
>
>
> I would have though that X86 would be quite a major platform for
Oracle,
> although I have no idea on relative sales percentages. I am aware that
Sun
> did a bit of a u-turn a couple of years ago and said that that would
not be
> releasing Solaris 10 on X86, later on reversing that policy. That
might have
> sent out a signal to developers and ISVs.
>
>
>
> It is also true to say that we have had a major change with the
addition of
> Linux in recent years and Oracle now releasing first for Linux as
opposed to
> Sun which was the case many years ago.
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>
> I am looking to push 11g when it is available as we will not be live
for at
> least one year, however I am starting to wonder how risky that is on
our
> chosen platform. Will bug-fixing and patching be acceptable and will
the
> level of take-up in the marketplace ensure that sufficient
bug-finding and
> testing takes place.
>
>
>
> I would be pleased to hear thoughts on the subject
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> John
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> +44 (0)113 223 2274 (direct)
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> +44 (0)113 297 9797
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