Hi Robert > Now that I can't force the use of an invisible index > with a hint, what good is the feature? The aim of the feature is twofold: - Testing a DROP INDEX without really dropping it. IMHO this is only interesting for very large indexes. Otherwise it isn't a problem recreating it... - Testing a CREATE INDEX without impacting every operation on the database. To enable it the initialization parameter optimizer_use_invisible_indexes may be set at session level. Note that if hints would be honored the feature would be useless for the former utilization. Best regards, Chris -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l