Mark, I've used Cygwin for several years, along with many other 3rd party tools. But it doesn't come with the Os, does it? Jared On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 07:16, Mark Leith wrote: > And a couple of other comments: > > For a text editor try "ConText".. It's a free alternative to textpad > which is just as good.. > (http://fixedsys.com/context/) > > For UNIX command line type options try cygwin.. > (http://www.cygwin.com/) > > Mark > > Mark Leith > Cool-Tools UK Limited > > Tel: 01905 330 281 > Fax: 08701 275 283 > mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.cool-tools.co.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Davey, Alan > Sent: 16 February 2004 15:03 > To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows > > > Hi, > > Have either of you tried the Scheduled Tasks program? On W2K it is > available under the Control Panel. I've used it in the past and unlike > the 'at' command it works reliably and is easy to configure. > > HTH, > > ----------------------------------------- > Alan Davey > Senior Analyst/Project Leader > Oracle 9i OCA; 3/4 OCP > w) 973.267.5990 x458 > w) 212.295.3458 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Freeman Robert - IL [mailto:FREEMANR@xxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:49 AM > To: 'Jared Still '; 'Oracle-L Freelists ' > Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows > > > Comments inline ... > > RF > > -----Original Message----- > > >> What I dislike about working with Oracle on Windows: > > >> * No decent scheduler. Yes there is 'at'. Like I said... > Good point, though this should be less of an issue with the new Oracle > Database 10g Scheduler, which is supposed to be able to kick off > external programs (including batch programs). I have not played with > this specific bit of functionality much, but what I have played with > worked. > > >> * Installing Perl on win32 with all needed modules has become a > >> monumental pain in the rear. > Hmmmmmm..... Another reason that Perl just isn't one of my fav. > scripting languages. > > >> * Why can't MS provide a semi-decent code editor. > >> Yeah, notepad. Right. > and vi or ed is any better??? Granted, once you learn vi, it's pretty > cool, but in the begining? UGH! My vote for best windows editor is > textpad.... hands down the best editor I've ever used. > > Anyone remember an editor called EC? Do they still make it? > > >> * Command line utilities. You think unix/linux is arcane? > Actually, you can do a lot at the command line in NT.... Of course, it's > not as robust as UNIX (have yet to find, for example, a fold command). > Still, if you are some C or basic coding experience or you are adept at > the web, it's not too bad. > > >> * The fact that an incredibly robust PIPE implementation is built in, > > >> but there is no access from the command line. And that Oracle is > >> built with the MS stdlib ( think that's the sitation ) so even when > >> you get 3rd party tools that work with PIPE's, they won't work with > >> Oracle. > Ok, I agree, this has been an issue with me as well. > > >> * The fact that there are still drive letters. > Ahhhh, so what? :-) Drive letters, mount points, who cares? > > > >> * That MS has *finally* got around to offering unix like utilities, > >> but wants $100 for them, on top of the money you've already paid for > >> the OS. > I've seen NT related UNIX utilities around for a while (don't recall if > they were MS though). > > >> * That it took until Win23k for MS to design the system to allow > >> different versions of apps to have different versions of DLL's. > >> Lesse, we've been doing this on unix for 30 years or so? > Hey, we all have growing pains! :-) > > >> * The stupid Oracle home selector that is strictly a GUI. > I have yet to use the Oracle home selector. Of course, I'm an old Oracle > command line guy.... OEM gives me a rash. > > >> * That whenever a change in environment is made that needs to be > >> picked up by an existing or new service, you must reboot because > >> there is no other way to reset the environment seen by services.exe. > Can't you just stop and restart the service? How often does one need to > change the environment in production anyway (hopefully not that often > once it's stable!) > > >> Mind you now, Oracle runs just fine on win32. It's maintaining it > >> and working with the environment that is so annoying, and made > >> difficult where it shouldn't be. > For me, the scheduler has been the biggest issue of all of these. > Frankly, the others don't cause me much of an issue. Each platform has > it's good and bad side. Which would I prefer, Oracle on UNIX... but I > just don't think Windows is that bad. > > Jared ... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------