Re: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?

  • From: "Keith M Cutler" <keith@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:35:43 -0600

I took the classes....got the self test software....took the self tests over 
and over again until I scored 95% or higher WITHOUT cheating. Didn't fail a 
single exam. If you get a question wrong, go research why you got it wrong. 
Over and over and over. I at least put in a good 80 hrs study time per test.

One thing to remember about this method is that by studying why you got a 
question wrong, you learn at the same time. 

Then when you are a OCP and get the job, remember the real test begins.

Glad to say I've never had a instance crash or run poorly (besides the crazy 
things my developers do to the db.....lol).


Keith M. Cutler
Oracle 8i Certified DBA



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Stephens 
  To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:41 PM
  Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?


  I wholeheartedly agree.  ...but I think it is also true that even among 
non-dba types, the legitimacy of the ocp is declining due to the fact that 
there are so many people out there that pass the tests because they have a 
'question repository'.  I remember trying to aquire the classroom documentation 
via the internet because my company would not send me to the classes (nor did I 
want to go to the class).  In my search I came across several dba forums where 
the exact questions and answers were laid out for everyone to see.  ...it's 
crap.  ...it's also one of the (probably too few) times in my life where I took 
the moral high road and went on to the next google hit...often not before 
posting a nasty message to the forum.



  Hell...I studied the documentation from the classes and investigated what I 
didn't understand via working through examples and referencing the official 
documentation.  I felt pretty good about getting the certification and felt I 
was a fully competent dba.  ...and then I joined this list and realized just 
how little I knew.  ...I shudder to think what has happened at companies where 
some newly knighted ocp lands a production dba gig with all the confidence that 
(sometimes) comes by passing the tests.    ...I struggle with not screwing 
things up as it is! J



  I know this has been discussed before.......but this hits home.  I am 
currently looking for a job and because I don't personally feel I'm at the sr. 
dba level and as a result don't market myself as such, my resume probably gets 
lumped in with a  bunch of people who hold certifications but can't do a d@mn 
thing!!  ...and given the current market situation, it's not a fun place to be!



  Woo.  That felt good.  ...back to reading oracle design.  ...thanks mogens 
for reminding me just how good this book is!



  chris





  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jared.Still@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Jared.Still@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:40 AM
  To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?




  > ..if it has any value at all. 

  I must disagree with this statement. 

  True, it may have no value among your Oracle peers. 

  But I doubt that anyone here is getting it to impress their peers.  We 
  all know better.  Wrong answers, dumb questions, etc. 

  The OCP may be the deciding factor when applying for employment. 

  Check monster.com and dice.com.  I have seen ads on several occasions 
  that *require* OCP. 

  It may also be tied to an individuals employment grade and/or salary 
increase. 

  You just need to consider another perspective on the subject. 

  Jared 








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  And this is one of the reasons ocp gets to be less and less valuable....if
  it has any value at all.

  ...study the database...not the questions.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kommareddy, Srinivas (MED, Wissen Infotech)
  [mailto:Srinivas.Kommareddy@xxxxxxxxxx] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:51 AM
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  Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?

  Hi,

  Do you need an easy way ? 

  ping me personallly if you need the question bank. You willl get more than
  60-70% of the questions in the exam from this question bank.

  Thanks and Regads,
  Srinivas


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  On Behalf Of VIVEK_SHARMA
  Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:04 PM
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