AFAIK, they're still running betas of it. I sat in on the alpha in Chicago last year, and I know they've run at least one beta in Sydney earlier this year. The instructor Chris spoke to was wrong. Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bobak, Mark Sent: Friday, 10 February 2006 4:55 AM To: cstephens16@xxxxxxxxx; oracle list Subject: RE: OCM Very bottom of this page: http://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_i d=47 Looks like it's out there..... -Mark -- Mark J. Bobak Senior Oracle Architect ProQuest Information & Learning "There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't." -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Stephens Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:43 PM To: oracle list Subject: OCM Does anyone have any idea when the 10G OCM program will be announced? I was told by an Oracle instructor that there wasn't going to be one but I remember a thread on this list that indicated otherwise. chris -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l