Martin, how reliable are the DB numbers? Another company has the operations contract so I don't get OEM access and they don't monitor performance. They basically do nuts and bolts (DB is up, backup recovery, call us if CPU gets too high), so I need to collect this myself. They only keep the AWR repository for 7 days, so I'm working on scripts to extract pieces of this to keep longer (want pieces to conserve space). is this even worth looking at? If its not reliable I won't bother. I don't get OS access which is how I used to monitor this stuff either and I won't get any support for this from operations (even if I gave them a script that monitored the OS and inserted records to a table). -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l