I was unaware that you could not just set the SGA_TARGET down and bounce your database but how about: Create an init.ora from the spfile. Remove the underbar values from init.ora Stop db. Startup nomount and recreate the spfile from the init.ora. Open db. I do no think that fact that MS will not support the /PAE switch would stop me from testing it if I was running into outages on a production system. -- Mark D Powell -- -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ray Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:46 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Manual mem management in 10g Powell, Mark D wrote: > Michael, I could easily be wrong but I think you are getting 04030 > errors because you have allocated too much of your total available > memory to the SGA and do not have enough left to be allocated to the > PGA's of your user sessions. Essentially, the DB Creation Asst was only going to use 40%, which we thought was quite low, of it's possible 2GB so we decided on 80% since all this server does is this 1 instance. So it came up with 1.2GB for sga and 400MB for pga. > Have your tried reducing your SGA_TARGET to say 800M or 1G and seeing > if this eliminates the 04030 errors while still allowing the database > to perform well enough? That is the only thing support has suggested (other than the 3gb switch) but they haven't given me a practical way to do it yet. You can only reduce sga_target by the difference in your current amount and the min sizes of the parameters that sga_target controls. sga_target is 1200MB, the sum of min sizes is 1188MB so I can only reduce it in 12MB steps it seems. Now perhaps this is really what I need to do (can't do it all at once), but support has never responded back if there's a more appropriate way to do it (after several updates of my SR asking for clarification). > Why can't you use the -3G or better yet /PAE switch to make more than > 2G available? It isn't supported by MS in a production environment on Standard Edition unless the app vendor (Oracle) has tested it. Oracle hasn't responded about that either. -- Sincerely, Michael Ray Topshot Systems LLC -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l