I am working witn FF8.0.1 and it appears to work correctly. I don't really see many differences... but lately I only use MOS for logging SRs... and I don't have any to log right now. So I'll have to wait and see. Certify seems as complicated as usual. Overall I like it, but it seems a bit sluggish... that's probably because I have only 2G of physical memory... Alan.- -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l