Are there any fond memories about the last time this happened? Here's hoping they have learned a lesson on that and make real improvements this time, and make a smooth transition. http://www.oracle.com/us/dm/100035303-wwsu11104830mpp001-oem-1430133.html Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com Home Page: http://jaredstill.com -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l