One more thing I forgot to mention - did you check your _optimizer_max_permutations parameter to make sure somebody didn't increase it from the default? Another workaround if you're desperate (not generally recommended!) could be to reduce this parameter from the default of 2000. Regards, Brandon ________________________________ Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.