Re: LOB Operation and SQL*Net Message From Client and cursor #0

  • From: Yong Huang <yong321@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Kevin Jernigan <kevin.jernigan@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 11:46:50 -0700 (PDT)

You're absolutely right. I just read the statements about license at
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/appdev.112/e18294/adlob_smart.htm
Thanks for this clarification.
Yong Huang

--- On Wed, 5/1/13, Kevin Jernigan <kevin.jernigan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Kevin Jernigan <kevin.jernigan@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: LOB Operation and SQL*Net Message From Client and cursor #0
To: "Yong Huang" <yong321@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: elkinsl@xxxxxxxxxxx, oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 11:40 AM


  

    
  
  
    SecureFiles is part of Oracle Database
      11g, and does not require you to license any options. If you want
      to compress and/or deduplicate your SecureFiles LOBs, then you
      need to license ACO, and if you want to encrypt your SecureFiles
      LOBs, then you need to license ASO.

      

      So, you can go forward in production with SecureFiles LOBs without
      having to license anything more than the database itself.

      

      -KJ

      

      
        


        
          
            
              Kevin Jernigan
              (650) 607-0392 (o)
            
            
              Senior Director Product Management
              (415) 710-8828 (m)
            
            
              kevin.jernigan@xxxxxxxxxx
            
            
              Advanced Compression - ACO:
              Information Lifecycle Management - ILM
            
            
                Advanced Row Compression
              Temporal database (Total Recall etc)
            
            
                Advanced LOB Compression
              SecureFiles
            
            
                Advanced LOB Deduplication
              Database File System - DBFS
            
            
                RMAN Backup Compression
              Direct NFS Client - dNFS
            
            
                Data Pump Export Compression
              CloneDB
            
            
                Data Guard Redo Network Transport Compression
              Database Resource Manager - DBRM
            
            
                Flashback Data Archive History Table Optimization
              Continuous Query Notification - CQN
            
            
              Hybrid Columnar Compression - HCC
              Index Organized Tables - IOT
            
            
              Database Smart Flash Cache
              OISP
            
          
        
      
      On 5/1/2013 9:30 AM, Yong Huang wrote:

    
    
      
        
          
            Hi Kevin,

              

              Thanks for this info. We tested SecureFiles LOBs and are
              happy with its performance. But since our shop didn't
              purchase required licences (I believe it requires both
              Advanced Security and Advanced Compression), so far we
              haven't used it.

              

              Yong Huang

              

              --- On Wed, 5/1/13, Kevin Jernigan <kevin.jernigan@xxxxxxxxxx>
              wrote:

              

                From: Kevin Jernigan <kevin.jernigan@xxxxxxxxxx>

                Subject: Re: LOB Operation and SQL*Net Message From
                Client and cursor #0

                To: yong321@xxxxxxxxx

                Cc: elkinsl@xxxxxxxxxxx, oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

                Date: Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 11:23 AM

                

                
                  
                    Yong,

                      

                      It might be true that you should avoid LOBs for
                      smaller-than-~4K character strings prior to 11g,
                      but SecureFiles LOBs in 11g is designed to solve
                      those performance issues. Have you seen similar
                      issues with SecureFiles LOBs in 11g?

                      

                      -KJ

                      

                      
                        


                        
                          
                            
                              Kevin Jernigan
                              (650) 607-0392 (o)
                            
                            
                              Senior Director Product Management
                              (415) 710-8828 (m)
                            
                            
                              kevin.jernigan@xxxxxxxxxx
                            
                            
                              Advanced Compression - ACO:
                              Information Lifecycle Management
                                - ILM
                            
                            
                                Advanced Row Compression
                              Temporal database (Total Recall
                                etc)
                            
                            
                                Advanced LOB Compression
                              SecureFiles
                            
                            
                                Advanced LOB Deduplication
                              Database File System - DBFS
                            
                            
                                RMAN Backup Compression
                              Direct NFS Client - dNFS
                            
                            
                                Data Pump Export Compression
                              CloneDB
                            
                            
                                Data Guard Redo Network Transport
                                Compression
                              Database Resource Manager -
                                DBRM
                            
                            
                                Flashback Data Archive History Table
                                Optimization
                              Continuous Query Notification -
                                CQN
                            
                            
                              Hybrid Columnar Compression -
                                HCC
                              Index Organized Tables - IOT
                            
                            
                              Database Smart Flash Cache
                              OISP
                            
                          
                        
                      
                      On 5/1/2013 8:43 AM, Yong Huang wrote:

                    
                    
                      
                        Doing a test, converting the column to a char compared 
to an SQL
statement leaving it as a LOB, it completes very quickly as all the
special handling for a LOB, fetching it, etc, is no longer needed.

                      
                      I always tell the developers to avoid CLOB unless they 
know for sure the text will exceed 4000 characters. Most of them simply 
consider LOB to be longer varchar2, not knowing that there's quite a bit of 
difference between the  mechanism to handle varchar2 and that to handle LOB 
(which is generally less efficient, and possibly over-engineered).


                      
                        the front end limits the [LOB comments] field to 255 
characters

                      
                      That's even worse in the design.

Yong Huang
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