See, we're seeing a move away from shared Oracle homes. In fact, the last 5-10 large organizations we were talking to deployed one ORACLE_HOME for every instance on the box (and most of them deployed a separate ORACLE_HOME for their listener as well). Even in RAC environments, people want the lack of SPOF by having independent O_H. Given that we do provisioning and patch automation, it makes sense that those environments are better for us. Since you do a clustered filesystem, shared OHOME is better for you. We should have a Jets-Sharks rumble. *hums bernstein* But also, yes, it seems as though most of our customers want to patch in-place, with the qualifier that they've run through this process on their dev, test, qa, uat, biz-uat, etc. environments. Matt > -----Original Message----- > From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Closson > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:59 PM > To: ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2 > > > > As for patching. > > I'm trying to patch r1 to r2. What a mess. > Didn't work. And Metalink doesn't respond. > > I'm hoping to get a release 2 CD and start all > over again. > > > ...this list is HOT with great topics today and it is making > it difficult for me to keep staring at this kernel profile > data looking for this stupid needle in the haystack. I'll > tell you oakies about it in November if I don't bore you to > death before then. Anyway, it's Friday and I'll catch up, > like I always do, on Sat and Sun :-). > > Back on thread. This post makes me ask, is it common out > there to apply patchsets (not a "patch" from r1 to r2 as in > th OP) to functional Oracle Homes? I should think a safer > approach would be to install a new R1 home, apply R2 to it > and if you are happy, switch over to it by dragging your TNS > stuff over. Or is my views of the common Oracle Home as too > simplistic? That is how I approach it here anyway. That is, > until we finish implementing our filesystem snapshots in > which case the patchset application process can be as junky > as anyone could imagine and I wouldn't care. Just revert to a > snapshot and make it writeable... not worries. > > Thoughts ? > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l