As for patching. I'm trying to patch r1 to r2. What a mess. Didn't work. And Metalink doesn't respond. I'm hoping to get a release 2 CD and start all over again. -------------------------------------------------------- This transmission may contain confidential, proprietary, or privileged information which is intended solely for use by the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, copying or distribution of this transmission or its attachments is strictly prohibited. In addition, unauthorized access to this transmission may violate federal or State law, including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1985. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the transmission and its attachments. ________________________________ From: Jared Still [mailto:jkstill@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:35 PM To: Matthew Zito Cc: Ron.Reidy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR); niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx; Christian Antognini; oracle-l Subject: Re: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2 We did a limited demo provisioning pack, patching a 9i database. Though the database patch I did went smoothly, I would have to see something more convincing than that single demo. There have been too many patch failures in my past. We also created a database clone. That is fairly simple though when compared to patching. Provisioning has other features (bare metal installs, OS and Oracle) but we didn't see any of that. I might add that this is GC 10gR2. We were told that it works *much* better than GC 10gR1. So maybe the provisioning has been improved a bit over the previous version. Jared On 9/29/06, Matthew Zito <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Did they demo the provisioning pack? We've had limited success getting it to work in our labs, and most of our customers have given up trying to get it work after a while. I'm curious what they showed in that area. Thanks, Matt ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Still Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:13 PM To: Ron.Reidy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Thomas.Mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx; Christian Antognini; oracle-l Subject: Re: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2 The GC workshop was fairly successful. I actually liked GC, which is quite different from my experiences with OEM. We didn't install it, just learned some of the features and how to use it. If you can spend the $$ on the diagnostics pack, it appeared it would be a worthwhile purchase. The client makes it fairly easy to drill down on problem SQL (which is usually the problem, right?), see the execution plan, run the SQL profiler (if you bought the $$ SQL tuning pack) and play what-if with the SQL. There was an embarrassing moment for the instructor though, when an error popped up trying to show one of the features. A problematic feature apparently, as she had just finished warning us about some things occasionally causing trouble. oops. A call to the data center in Austin got it fixed. The feature in question involves running a copy of the Oracle Intelligent Agent in 'beacon' mode on a remote PC. The agent will periodically replay a transaction (Web based, or C/S based), and allow you to do end-to-end analysis on the latencies of the transaction. Very nice feature, worthy of further investigation. Sorry, I did not get the opportunity to ask about the questions raised in Oracle-L, the class was overbooked, we all used our own notebooks, and the tech folks were kept quite busy. I did ask explicity questions about licensing however. If you are licensed to use Oracle, you are licensed to use GC. This includes Oracle Application Server, as a runtime license only, as well as the database, also runtime. You will need to pay for $$ for the extra packs. Diagnostic and SQL Tuning packs - Diag a prereq for the SQL pack. Provisioning Pack Change Mgt Pack Those are all extra $$, as well as some of the plugins. SQL Server, DB2, ... -- Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist -- Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist