Re: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2

  • From: "Jared Still" <jkstill@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Matthew Zito" <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:35:18 -0700

We did a limited demo provisioning pack, patching a 9i database.

Though the database patch I did went smoothly, I would have to
see something more convincing than that single demo.

There have been too many patch failures in my past.

We also created a database clone.  That is fairly simple
though when compared to patching.

Provisioning has other features (bare metal installs, OS and Oracle)
but we didn't see any of that.

I might add that this is GC 10gR2.  We were told that it
works *much* better than GC 10gR1.  So maybe the provisioning
has been improved a bit over the previous version.


On 9/29/06, Matthew Zito <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Did they demo the provisioning pack? We've had limited success getting it to work in our labs, and most of our customers have given up trying to get it work after a while. I'm curious what they showed in that area.


*From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
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Christian Antognini; oracle-l
*Subject:* Re: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2

The GC workshop was fairly successful.

I actually liked GC, which is quite different from my experiences with

We didn't install it, just learned some of the features and how to use it.

If you can spend the $$ on the diagnostics pack, it appeared it would
be a worthwhile purchase.  The client makes it fairly easy to drill down
on problem SQL (which is usually the problem, right?), see the execution
plan, run the SQL profiler (if you bought the $$ SQL tuning pack) and
play what-if with the SQL.

There was an embarrassing moment for the instructor though, when
an error popped up trying to show one of the features.  A problematic
feature apparently, as she had just finished warning us about some
things occasionally causing trouble.  oops.

A call to the data center in Austin got it fixed.  The feature in question
involves running a copy of the Oracle Intelligent Agent in 'beacon'
mode on a remote PC.  The agent will periodically replay a transaction
(Web based, or C/S based), and allow you to do end-to-end analysis
on the latencies of the transaction.  Very nice feature, worthy of further

Sorry, I did not get the opportunity to ask about the questions raised in
the class was overbooked, we all used our own notebooks, and the tech
folks were kept quite busy.

I did ask explicity questions about licensing however.  If you are
to use Oracle, you are licensed to use GC.  This includes Oracle
Server, as a runtime license only, as well as the database, also runtime.

You will need to pay for $$ for the extra packs.

   Diagnostic and SQL Tuning packs - Diag a prereq for the SQL pack.
   Provisioning Pack
   Change Mgt Pack

Those are all extra $$, as well as some of the plugins.  SQL Server, DB2,

Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist

Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist

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