I ran into the issue where the httpd process died because the $OH/Apache/Apache/logs/access_log file became greater than 2G in size. Ordinarily I just cat /dev/null on the file and do the "opmnctl startall" and everything is fine. This time I am getting the error "time out while waiting for a managed process to start". The error in the /u01/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/em/oms10g/opmn/logs/HTTP_Server~1 file is /u01/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/em/oms10g/Apache/Apache/bin/apachectl stop: httpd (no pid file) not running Ths status of the HTTP_Server ias-component is Stop. I tried adding a timeout for this component in the opmn.xml, but it didn't work. I did remove all of the files in the $ORACLE_HOME/Apache/Apache/logs directory. I am afraid that I removed something that needed to stay. I have tried manually killing the httpd process multiple times. Both the opmnctl startall and opmnctl stopall are timing out on the HTTP_Server component. Patrick Elliott "You don't truly fail until you quit."