RE: Global (and local) Temporary Tables & PL/SQL

  • From: "Brady, Mark" <Mark.Brady@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Mladen Gogala" <mgogala@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:57:59 -0400

I thought this forum was free from personal attacks and assholes. Guess
I was wrong...


-----Original Message-----
From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:mgogala@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:54 PM
To: Brady, Mark
Cc: oracle-l
Subject: Re: Global (and local) Temporary Tables & PL/SQL

On 04/04/2007 02:07:25 PM, Brady, Mark wrote:

> Could you add a DDL trigger on before alter of that package to check
> existence of the table and create it if missing? The package will
> go invalid but compile the first time.

If I was a believer, this would be the right time to say "oh my God"!
PL/SQL is a procedural language, not meant to be used for DDL. This
application should be completely re-engineered. How can people abuse 
a decent, non-suspecting relational database like that? It's people like

you that make a good and honest DBA like me support torture. Developers 
doing this kind of crap should be shipped to Guantanamo and taught by
boarding that PL/SQL should operate on an existing schema and permanent
already  in the schema. Oracle has local temporary tables. They're
"REF cursors" An attempt to emulate the SQL Server behavior is not only
a sign 
of terminal stupidity, it will create a horrible application that will
dependent procedure and itself, create dictionary and parsing locks,
cause checkpoints 
and waste CPU on reparsing. What you need in that picture is RAC for the
joy to be 
complete. Oracle is not a SQL server and one should never make it behave
like that. 
That is how suboptimal applications are created. The next step is that
CIO comes to 
the DBA and tells him that the "database is slow" at which point the DBA
quits or 
grabs the nearest blunt object.
One personal question: what makes you think that you're qualified to
dispense such advice?
If today was April the 1st, I'd go with the flow, but this is just
completely outrageous.
I hope that the two of us will never work together.

Mladen Gogala
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