Re: GI and DB PSU Patch

  • From: Don Seiler <don@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Sanjay Mishra <smishra_97@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:51:10 -0600

I thought it was a requirement that the GI patch level had to be greater
than or equal to the RDBMS patch level. So it would not be possible to
patch only the RDBMS, as you would get errors when trying to start up.
Perhaps my information is out of date.

Don.


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Sanjay Mishra <smishra_97@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Thanks Rajesh.
>
>
>   On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:08 AM, Rajesh Aialavajjala <
> r.aialavajjala@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   Sanjay,
>  Not sure I follow what you are saying - my understanding was that you had
> 2 questions around this
>
> 1) Whether GI/CRS ORACLE_HOME requires to be patched - or is it adequate
> to only patch RDBMS ORACLE_HOMEs' w/ RDBMS PSUs'
>
> Answer: Oracle recommends that you apply GI patches to both the GI and
> RDBMS ORACLE_HOMEs' ...
>
> 2) ASM vs RDBMS compatibility...in terms of major release #s' - 4th digit
> <11.2.0.*x>*
>
> Note *337737.1 *states that for the purpose of version compatibility -
> you do not need to delve into the 5th digit when validating combinations of
> ASM+RDBMS - for example - the January 2014 PSU for 11.2.0.3 will bring the
> 5th digit to 11.2.0.3.*9 *- however when you're checking compatibility -
> you can only run an RDBMS that is equal to or lower than 11.2.0.3 - the 5th
> digit does not matter - in theory you could have an RDBMS @ 
> 11.2.0.3.*9*managed by  a 11.2.0.3.
> *7* CRS_ORACLE_HOME
>
> Refer "Patching Considerations" contained in RAC and Oracle Clusterware
> Best Practices and Starter Kit (Platform Independent) (Doc ID 810394.1)...
>
> I'd guess - yes you can continue to only patch RDBMS ORACLE_HOMEs' - but
> it might not be the best option...in light of recommendations that Oracle
> makes - of course subject to whatever factors/constraints you're dealing w/
> :-) - it's not always possible to follow 'recommendations'....
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Rajesh
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Sanjay Mishra <smishra_97@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> Thanks Rajesh, I checked and one of the Links (337737.1) says
> The Oracle Grid Infrastructure (GI) /Clusterware (CRS) version must be of
> the highest version down to the 4th digit in the possible combinations at
> all times.
> This means, you have to upgrade Oracle Grid Infrastructure / Clusterware
> first.
>
>    - The 5th digit does not have to be greater and can be excluded from
>    these version considerations.
>
>
> So does that mean that as PSU patch only update the last Fifth digit we
> can continue with only PSU patch to RDBMS home and not to GI
>
> Sanjay
>
>
>   On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:25 AM, Rajesh Aialavajjala <
> r.aialavajjala@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   Sanjay,
>  Oracle recommends that in a Grid Infrastructure environmetn - that GI
> patches be applied to both the GI and RDBMS ORACLE_HOMEs' ...
>
>
> *Which Patch Needs to be Applied to Which Home in GI/CRS and RAC
> Environment (Doc ID 1474914.1) *
>
> *FAQ: OPatch/Patch Questions/Issues for Oracle Clusterware (Grid
> Infrastructure or CRS) and RAC Environments (Doc ID 1339140.1) *
>
> Of course - there can be exceptions - as occurred w/ the January 2014
> Critical Patch Update....where there was no 11.2.0.4 GI PSU <this may not
> apply in the case you're mentioning since your e-mail states the highest
> version is 11.2.0.3>
>
> Will there be a Grid Infrastructure (GI) PatchSet Update (PSU) 11.2.0.4.1
> (Jan 2014)? (Doc ID 1611875.1)
>
> As relates to ASM-RDBMS version compatibility...
>
> *Oracle Clusterware (CRS/GI) - ASM - Database Version Compatibility (Doc
> ID 337737.1)*
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Rajesh
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Sanjay Mishra <smishra_97@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Is it fine to only apply PSU patch to DB and ignore GI ? I thought ASM
> should be same or higher version that RDBMS. In one of the existing client,
> I saw patches are only applied to RDBMS and never to GI. There is no other
> reason except look like anyone never looked to it and follow the standard
> going on. Current version is 11g 2( 11.2.0.1-11.2.0.3).
>
> So if someone share any Oracle metalink docs or suggestion as what is best
> practices and why? Greatly appreciate it.
>
> TIA
> Sanjay
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-- 
Don Seiler
http://www.seiler.us

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