Robert wrote: *As I recall, the message was sent directly to mail accounts rather than to the listserv which upset a few folks because it appeared to be more of a spamming activity based on trolling the list. Mark wrote a message indicating it was an error and I think we all accepted that apology as such. Things happen. I have not objections to a post on the list for an open job at all, as I've made an occasional one at times. * To be fair, the message header I have is clearly addressed to oracle-l and not to personal mail ids. NB I see even your own signature includes: *The LDS Church is looking for DBA's.... *;-)* *Regards Nigel