OT I know, does anyone know if forms 10g (I imagine 10.1.2) will have any issues using an 8i Client stack? I have a client who can't move to the 10g client on this box (because of another app) but would still like to use their app server to serve their apps. Dual Oracle Homes are be more complicated than they should be because of the other app. -- Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA http://www.orawin.info