Mladen, The term "Oracle scientist" was used only in the prior discussion; I referenced it only for context to that prior discussion. I really don't want to revisit it or bring it forward. Probably a mistake to mention it altogether -- my apologies. Please note I used only the bare word "scientist" to refer to Wolfgang and his methods, without qualifying "Oracle" or whatever... I think it's important that this forum, both new participants as well as long-timers, emulate Wolfgang's methods more often. I think it'll improve the "signal-to-noise" ratio in favor of "signal". OK: that's *really* all I have to say. -Tim ------ Forwarded Message From: Mladen Gogala <mgogala@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:33:03 -0400 To: tim@xxxxxxxxx Cc: "oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: 10g System statistics - single and multi Tim Gorman wrote: >Ladies and gentlemen, > >Some weeks/months ago there was a discussion about what constitutes an >"Oracle scientist" and whether the term is valid or not, pretentious or not, >justified or not, etc. I believe the discussion began on "AskTom.com" but I >think it spilled over onto this forum, and grew rather rancorous. > > > Oracle scientist???? Tim, I usually admire your discourse but here I beg to differ. Oracle RDBMS has not evolved, it was created. In the beginning, there was Larry. And Larry said let there be RDBMS. And there was RDBMS. No science there. It's a religious thing, not a science. Oracle RDBMS is an enormously complicated piece of software but it doesn't elevate its high priests to the level of scientists. I think that teaching of RDBMS evolution theory in our training centers ought to be illegal. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Ext. 121 ------ End of Forwarded Message -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l