Re: Exadata patching + Oracle support
- From: Kevin Closson <ora_kclosson@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "acolvin@xxxxxxxxxxx" <acolvin@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "jason.arneil@xxxxxxxxx" <jason.arneil@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:20:29 -0800 (PST)
The term "Engineered System" is a proper moniker for what Exadata is. I'm not
so sure it's all that catchy and it *most certainly* is nothing new. It's not
the world's first anything--it's just a pre-packaged system and it is actually
a really good prepackaged system. Does that mean is it the best? No, because it
can't do anything but Oracle Database 11g and that is the kill button in my
opinion. When it was slated as the optimal Oracle/DW play (to stave off
Teradata and Greenplum), sure, fine, call it the worlds best platform for
Oracle DW...until another best of breed platform emerges to displace it.
Everything we know in IT has a shelf life.
If you start your typical server deployment with box-cutter in hand looking at
a palette full of boxes then, sure, having all those cables already plugged in
is going to feel like an incredible value-add. There are, however, systems
offering in the industry that don't require you to own a box cutter...and they
nicely host more than just a single software solution (e.g. Oracle database).
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From: Andy Colvin <acolvin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jason.arneil@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Chris.Stephens@xxxxxxx; "oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Exadata patching + Oracle support
Yes, I would not really call the Exadata an appliance, either. I'd think of it
as "a standardized build that runs the Oracle database very well for certain
workloads." But that's not nearly as catchy as "Engineered System."
Andy Colvin
Principal Consultant
Enkitec
andy.colvin@xxxxxxxxxxx
http://blog.oracle-ninja.com
On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:51 AM, jason arneil wrote:
> Hi,
> I'd take objection to "Exadata patching is included in the purchase price
> of Exadata appliances". Are they really being sold as appliances? Somewhat
> misleading, I'd say.
>
> In my experience over the past 18 months or so, they most definitely are
> *NOT* appliances.
>
> I've never updated firmware on my toaster, but I have on an Exadata. Only
> one of them is an appliance.
>
> jason.
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> On 9 January 2013 13:57, Stephens, Chris <Chris.Stephens@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Would anyone care to comment on the fact that Oracle sales folks are
>> saying that Exadata patching is included in the purchase price of Exadata
>> appliances + support vs. the "patch madness" I keep hearing about?
>> Management is under the impression that Oracle would handle all patching
>> if Exadata is brought into the datacenter. That's what Oracle seems to be
>> claiming but I'm skeptical.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>>
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