I should have mentioned this in my previous email, thanks Job for pointing it out. Another key difference between DBLRA and incrementally updated backup strategy is that with DBLRA you can restore to any point in time. For each incremental DBLRA receives it creates a virtual full, so the user has the choice to restore to any of these virtual full backups. Whereas in an incrementally updated strategy the updated copy cannot be undone, hence it's not possible for the user to restore to a point prior to the one represented by the updated copy. -----Original Message----- From: Gurmeet Goindi Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:36 AM To: D'Hooge Freek Cc: mboligan@xxxxxxxxx; Andy Colvin; Guillermo Alan Bort; hansrajsao@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Exadata backups Its different in the sense that the DB server doesn't has to get involved in applying the incrementals. The Appliance does it for you, say you take a rman level 1 backup, and then when you do an "rman list" you'll see a full backup not an incremental. In addition it also validates the backup, so you don't have to run "rman validate" on the db server anymore. Gurmeet Goindi | Principal Product Manager Oracle High Availability | Maximum Availability Architecture 400 Oracle Parkway | Redwood Shores, CA 94065, USA | 650.506.1277 http://www.oracle.com/goto/availability -----Original Message----- From: D'Hooge Freek [mailto:Freek.DHooge@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:42 AM To: Gurmeet Goindi Cc: mboligan@xxxxxxxxx; Andy Colvin; Guillermo Alan Bort; hansrajsao@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Exadata backups Is this different from the incrementally updating backups feature of rman or just a more automated version of it? -- Freek D'Hooge Uptime Oracle Database Administrator email: freek.dhooge@xxxxxxxxx tel +32(03) 451 23 82 http://www.uptime.be disclaimer: www.uptime.be/disclaimer.html On di, 2013-10-29 at 14:05 -0700, Gurmeet Goindi wrote: > This OOW we announced the Oracle Database Backup Logging Recovery > Appliance. Details about the appliance can be found HYPERLINK > "http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/database-backup-logging-r > ecovery-appliance/index.html"here > > > Among other features, the appliance ingests RMAN incremental backups to > generate a full backup for that point in time. Other than the first full > backup, with this appliance the user will never have to take a full backup > again but will enjoy the benefits of a full backup. In this setting RMAN will > never read or send a duplicate block to the appliance hence the impact to the > DB server will be minimum, highly proportional to the amount of change bits. > > > > > > > > Gurmeet Goindi | Principal Product Manager > > Oracle High Availability | Maximum Availability Architecture > > 400 Oracle Parkway | Redwood Shores, CA 94065, USA | 650.506.1277 > > http://www.oracle.com/goto/availability > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike boligan [mailto:mboligan@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:33 PM > To: Andy Colvin > Cc: Guillermo Alan Bort; hansrajsao@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Exadata backups > > > > Andy/Ryaj, > > Thanks for clarifying that for me, very helpful. > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l