Re: Enterprise mangler
- From: Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: vishal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 13:01:56 +0100
Grid Control *is* free for the database that you've already paid for. It's
the extra packs and functionality that are add-on cost, and I have a history
of objecting to that, in fact in my world (hehe) the GUI would cost, but the
functionality would be part of the database. Never the less, the fact is
that GC itself is free - that is you *cannot* purchase it. Now it is true
that if you disable the functionality provided by the packs GC looks rather
poor, but then you must make sure that you compare like with like, no
running of AWRRPT, no querying any of the ASH related views, no generation
of alerts via the server_alert package and so on. GC however essentially
provides only 2 things, a centralized repository and a GUI for viewing
things, drilling down into problems and so on. The centralized repository is
something that scripts don't tend to have and drilling down from text
reports requires a significant amount of skill.
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Vishal Gupta <vishal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I could not agree more. If Grid Control was free for managing the
> database for which you have **already** paid heavy license fee compared to
> competitors. Only if grid control was free, it would definitely kill off its
> competitors.
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> I work at site which uses MSSQL, Oracle and Sybase. Sybase is dying at our
> place. But many times MSSQL wins the battle purely on price front for a new
> system being deployed.
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> Regards,
>
> Vishal Gupta
>
>
>
> *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Guillermo Alan Bort
> *Sent:* 02 May 2009 15:28
> *To:* dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Cc:* ORACLE-L
> *Subject:* Re: Enterprise mangler
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> E3? FocalPoint for Oracle? I've worked with it and it sux big time.
>
> I don't really like the commercial tools that are out there. I usually
> build my own set of scripts and load them to a DB and generate reports using
> either APEX or JPGraph+PHP
>
> Anyway, I don't really like Symantec... so my comment might be biased.
>
> As for OEM, I'd wait for a couple of years... it'll get better (as OracleAS
> got better than iAS, Oracle10gR2 got better than Oracle10gR1, 9i got better
> than 9.0) etc.
>
> I've tried OEM on 11g and works rather fine... I can't wait for Grid
> Control to be upgraded...^_^ and a couple of patchsets to be released, of
> course.
>
> I only wish Oracle would give it for free... it would be a greate added
> value to the database... and would essentially kill the competition (perhaps
> anti-trust would have something to say about this).
>
> In any case, perhaps in a few years GC will have OS monitoring and control
> as well (*cough* SUN *cough*)
>
> hth
> Alan Bort
> Oracle Certified Professional
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Nuno Souto <dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> Howard Latham wrote,on my timestamp of 2/05/2009 10:19 PM:
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> EM is great when it works. But I seem to spend a lot of time fixing it
> - apart from Grid
> what other tools can monitor an enterprise of databases what do you
> recommend?
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> E3 from Symantec.
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>
> --
> Cheers
> Nuno Souto
> in stormy Sydney, Australia
> dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Niall Litchfield
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