I meant if the columns you are updating are part of any indexes = (including the PK)? Regards, Waleed -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Jeff [mailto:jeff.thomas@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 9:56 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Does primary key structure impact UPDATE performance? Nope, no extra indexes other then the PK columns. Question: Looking at one of the bind variable values which maps to=3D20 a date: value=3D3D"1/1/1899 0:0:0" 0:0:0 is not a valid time. How would this statement succeed then? -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Khedr, Waleed Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:36 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Does primary key structure impact UPDATE performance? Are the updated columns indexed? Waleed -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Jeff [mailto:jeff.thomas@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 9:29 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Does primary key structure impact UPDATE performance? Thanks Jonathan. However, the datatypes are correct, i.e. dty=3D3D3D12 = =3D =3D3D date, and dty=3D3D3D1 varchar2 for the subsequent columns: WHERE SRC_EFF_FROM_DT =3D3D3D :66 AND KEY_ID =3D3D3D :67 AND SOURCE_ID = =3D =3D3D3D :68 bind 65: dty=3D3D3D12 mxl=3D3D3D07(07) mal=3D3D3D00 scl=3D3D3D00 = pre=3D3D3D00 =3D oacflg=3D3D3D03 =3D3D oacfl2=3D3D3D0 size=3D3D3D0 offset=3D3D3D8 bfp=3D3D3D11036b238 bln=3D3D3D07 avl=3D3D3D07 flg=3D3D3D01 value=3D3D3D"1/1/1899 0:0:0" bind 66: dty=3D3D3D1 mxl=3D3D3D128(80) mal=3D3D3D00 scl=3D3D3D00 = pre=3D3D3D00 =3D oacflg=3D3D3D03 =3D3D oacfl2=3D3D3D10 size=3D3D3D0 offset=3D3D3D16 bfp=3D3D3D11036b240 bln=3D3D3D128 avl=3D3D3D28 flg=3D3D3D01 value=3D3D3D"0004021396~0004021396~RG~500" bind 67: dty=3D3D3D1 mxl=3D3D3D32(30) mal=3D3D3D00 scl=3D3D3D00 = pre=3D3D3D00 =3D oacflg=3D3D3D03 =3D3D oacfl2=3D3D3D10 size=3D3D3D0 offset=3D3D3D144 bfp=3D3D3D11036b2c0 bln=3D3D3D32 avl=3D3D3D05 flg=3D3D3D01 value=3D3D3D"SAPR3" =3D3D20 Waleed: No chaining. Thought of that early on. -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Jonathan Lewis Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:57 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Does primary key structure impact UPDATE performance? Judging by the number of table blocks you read to update a single row, it looks as if your index is not engineered to meet the needs of the update, and is currently doing something along the lines of: check 250,000 rows in the index leaf blocks, and eliminate 249,950 of them, then check 50 rows against the table to find the right one. If you think the code looks as if it is supplying all the columns of the index, check the types of the incoming bind variables to make sure they match the types of the columns. You may be losing index precision because of a coercion problem. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk <http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk>=3D3D20 http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html <http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html>=3D3D20 The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html <http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html>=3D3D20 Optimising Oracle Seminar - schedule updated May 1st ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Jeff" <jeff.thomas@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:28 PM Subject: FW: Does primary key structure impact UPDATE performance? See if this is easier to read. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Jeff Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 6:25 AM To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: Does primary key structure impact UPDATE performance? Yes, that's one row at a time. There are no other indexes other then the PK constraint. TA sample from the trace (following the binds) is like this: WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 146 p1=3D3D3D12 = =3D p2=3D3D3D1831 =3D3D p3=3D3D3D1 WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 136 p1=3D3D3D11 = p2=3D3D3D27 =3D p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 165 p1=3D3D3D49 = =3D p2=3D3D3D207213 p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D = 17462 =3D p1=3D3D3D54 p2=3D3D3D20918 p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential = read' =3D ela=3D3D3D 147 p1=3D3D3D54 p2=3D3D3D21512 p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file = sequential =3D read' ela=3D3D3D 196 p1=3D3D3D12 p2=3D3D3D5854 p3=3D3D3D1 WAIT =3D3D #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 142 p1=3D3D3D54 = p2=3D3D3D20726 =3D p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 142 p1=3D3D3D54 = =3D p2=3D3D3D21526 p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D = 147 =3D p1=3D3D3D12 p2=3D3D3D5901 p3=3D3D3D1 WAIT =3D3D #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 140 p1=3D3D3D12 = p2=3D3D3D5911 =3D p3=3D3D3D1 WAIT =3D3D #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 153 p1=3D3D3D11 = p2=3D3D3D326 =3D p3=3D3D3D1 WAIT =3D3D #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 148 p1=3D3D3D54 = p2=3D3D3D20944 =3D p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 143 p1=3D3D3D54 = =3D p2=3D3D3D21969 p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D = 151 =3D p1=3D3D3D54 p2=3D3D3D20789 p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential = read' =3D ela=3D3D3D 144 p1=3D3D3D54 p2=3D3D3D20755 p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D WAIT #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file = sequential =3D read' ela=3D3D3D 143 p1=3D3D3D12 p2=3D3D3D6052 p3=3D3D3D1 WAIT =3D3D #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 137 p1=3D3D3D11 = p2=3D3D3D415 =3D p3=3D3D3D1 WAIT =3D3D #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 137 p1=3D3D3D54 = p2=3D3D3D425 =3D p3=3D3D3D1 WAIT =3D3D #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 124 p1=3D3D3D11 = p2=3D3D3D426 =3D p3=3D3D3D1 WAIT =3D3D #1: nam=3D3D3D'db file sequential read' ela=3D3D3D 174 p1=3D3D3D54 = p2=3D3D3D18965 =3D p3=3D3D3D1 =3D3D EXEC #1:c=3D3D3D1720000,e=3D3D3D1691529,p=3D3D3D20,cr=3D3D3D2371,cu=3D3D3D1,mi= s=3D3D3D0,r=3D3D=3D 3D1,dep=3D3D3D0 ,=3D3D og=3D3D3D4,tim=3D3D3D105920 2213148331 =3D3D20 If I'm reading this correctly, elapsed time was 1.7 seconds, required 20 PIO's and 2372 LIO's to execute this UPDATE, which updated one row. = p1=3D3D3D11/12 =3D =3D3D is the index, p1=3D3D3D54 is the table. 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