RE: Does anyone use 10gR2 Grid control for enterprise wide monitoring ?
- From: <Joel.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <sacrophyte@xxxxxxxxx>, <gorbyx@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:50:58 -0500
I'm putting in a production installation for the same reasons. After
painfully upgrading oms, agent, repository and database to 10.2.0.2, I
cloned the agent to a second server. Ran the agent configuration
assistant - which is where I am now after two days. I is simply
hanging never to return. I have an SR but will not now get progress
until Wednesday or later. The analyst came back and wanted my
glogin.sql scripts for each ORACLE_HOME?
Who would have thought to look at that? It is the default one anyway on
that server.
Joel Patterson
Database Administrator
joel.patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx
x72546
904 727-2546
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Subject: Re: Does anyone use 10gR2 Grid control for enterprise wide
monitoring ?
Something that really annoys us is doing some as simple as upgrading a
database can really confuse the way the agent phones home, causing an
ugly miscommunication between agent and the oms. I am not sure why this
happens. In two separate SRs, the Oracle Analyst told us the easiest
thing to do is reinstall the agent. Think about that for a moment. The
OMS depends on the Agent to talk to the Database. The Agent sits in its
own Oracle Home and allegedly knows quite a bit about the Database
Oracle Home. When you upgrade your Database, all the sudden the Agent
gets confused and cannot talk coherently with the OMS. Why?
I did push one Analyst to give the harder solution; this involved
modifying xml files in the agent home (removing the "offending Oracle
Home"), clearing out several directories and restarting the agent. It
was complex enough that if I had to do it again, I would need someone to
hold my hand again. I tried looking for the steps in the documentation,
but could not find them. Perhaps there is a metalink note now that
describes the process.
We continue to use 10gR2 for monitoring, and it comes in handy for
various SQL tuning exercises and overall system monitoring (people like
to see the pretty pictures). However, I do await a future incarnation
when at least upgrading the target is not a cause for agent surgery.
On 12/22/06, Alex Gorbachev <gorbyx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Even a simple restart of the target database / servers result in ...
When database is bounced, you should have blackout set as well as for
node bounce.
On 12/22/06, Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR) <
Thomas.Mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> We had release 1 running on our Aix box and it pretty much sucked.
The...
Well, in my experience it's most stable on Linux 32 bit. I didn't try
it on Solaris but AIX and HP-UX I found somewhat lagging in stability
and number of bugs.
> It's a pretty weird product. I don't think I need all of the grid
> functionality (don't want server stats, app server operations, web
server
> operations, auto patch install, auto Metalink search for patches -
please!).
> We only need simple Oem functionality - like is the database up or
down and
> are there alert log errors. My opinion is that they took a perfectly
decent
> product (9i Oem) and ruined it to try and gain market share competing
> against Veritas and other infrastructure monitoring tools. And we,
the
> DBA's, get screwed in the process with a tool that no longer works.
Well, you don't really have these extra features unless you license
them. They are bundled all together but you are not supposed to use
it. I would recommend disabling those packs and also disable
collection of metrics you don't use - this might save quite a bit of
CPU for agents.
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Best regards,
Alex Gorbachev
The Pythian Group
Sr. Oracle DBA
http://www.pythian.com/blogs/author/alex/
http://blog.oracloid.com
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