I know OpenOffice Draw will do the basic drawing. I had looked at DBDesigner4 at one point and I see their web site is still there. On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 18:41 +0100, Niall Litchfield wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for visio equivalents that are > either open source or free. I need a tool that will diagram erd. > Physical servers logical app design at least. I know visio will do > this at a cost is there anything else out there > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l