Thanks Jared. I did see that version but it did not work with my repository version. I needed 9.0.2.0 thru 9.0.2.4. Happily I found an old CD for the IDS V9.0.2.0.1 which had what I needed and everything is copasetic. Ben Poels Queen's University -----Original Message----- From: Jared Still [mailto:jkstill@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:24 PM To: poelsb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Oracle-L@Freelists. Org Subject: Re: Designer 9.0.2.0 It's still there: http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/designer/index.html On 12/7/05, Ben Poels <poelsb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Does anyone know where I can download Designer version 9.0.2.0, OR the Internet Develoment Suite install for 9.0.2.? that I believe also contains this Designer version? It seems to have been recently dropped from Oracle's web site(probably unsupported). Ben Poels Queen's University -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist