Re: Definition of Top Class DBA

  • From: Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mckaydim@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:50:32 +0100

Michael

In the UK that might amount to constructive dismissal :).  However any
management structure worth its salt would be addressing that sort of
situation via the established HR processes.
On 12 Sep 2014 00:13, "Mckay-dirden, Michael (Student)" <
mckaydim@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Yeah I've noticed the same. There's a DBA I know with 12+ years
> "experience" but I still rate him as being junior level although his
> position is obviously Senior DBA now.
>
>
>  I think a problem with it is that most/all companies almost never demote
> anyone. The worst that ever happens is a stagnant salary or a job role
> change but not going from "Senior DBA" to "DBA" with an appropriate pay
> cut. I think if such demotions were more easily enforced then people would
> be less likely to rest on their laurels for so long.
>
>
>   Regards,
> Mike
>    ------------------------------
> *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
> behalf of Iggy Fernandez <iggy_fernandez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* 11 September 2014 23:00
> *To:* Kumar Madduri
> *Cc:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: Definition of Top Class DBA
>
>  The problem is that everyone in the team is already billed as a "senior
> DBA" after one or two years on the job because (understandably) no one is
> satisfied with the "junior DBA" or "DBA" title. Therefore we need inflated
> titles like "top DBA" or "DBA architect" but all they really mean is "truly
> senior DBA" :-)
>
>  Kindest regards,
>
>  Iggy
> Senior DBA
> "Been there. Done that."
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:07:55 -0700
> Subject: Re: Definition of Top Class DBA
> From: ksmadduri@xxxxxxxxx
> To: iggy_fernandez@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> This has been a great discussion and good learning.
> But the original reason why I asked was,  I kind of get upset when even
> technical DBAs/technical managers say they need Top DBAs. That too me is
> kind of vague. You could be Top DBA where you are but not Top DBA at 'xyz
> corp'. So I would rather post for a job with the skills I am looking for
> rather than putting unneccesaary adjectives.  The  guy/gal who thinks they
> are 'Top DBAs' usually post these postings :)  (other than HR guys of
> course  and I dont blame them because they dont have expertise).
>

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