Michael In the UK that might amount to constructive dismissal :). However any management structure worth its salt would be addressing that sort of situation via the established HR processes. On 12 Sep 2014 00:13, "Mckay-dirden, Michael (Student)" < mckaydim@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yeah I've noticed the same. There's a DBA I know with 12+ years > "experience" but I still rate him as being junior level although his > position is obviously Senior DBA now. > > > I think a problem with it is that most/all companies almost never demote > anyone. The worst that ever happens is a stagnant salary or a job role > change but not going from "Senior DBA" to "DBA" with an appropriate pay > cut. I think if such demotions were more easily enforced then people would > be less likely to rest on their laurels for so long. > > > Regards, > Mike > ------------------------------ > *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on > behalf of Iggy Fernandez <iggy_fernandez@xxxxxxxxxxx> > *Sent:* 11 September 2014 23:00 > *To:* Kumar Madduri > *Cc:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* RE: Definition of Top Class DBA > > The problem is that everyone in the team is already billed as a "senior > DBA" after one or two years on the job because (understandably) no one is > satisfied with the "junior DBA" or "DBA" title. Therefore we need inflated > titles like "top DBA" or "DBA architect" but all they really mean is "truly > senior DBA" :-) > > Kindest regards, > > Iggy > Senior DBA > "Been there. Done that." > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:07:55 -0700 > Subject: Re: Definition of Top Class DBA > From: ksmadduri@xxxxxxxxx > To: iggy_fernandez@xxxxxxxxxxx > > This has been a great discussion and good learning. > But the original reason why I asked was, I kind of get upset when even > technical DBAs/technical managers say they need Top DBAs. That too me is > kind of vague. You could be Top DBA where you are but not Top DBA at 'xyz > corp'. So I would rather post for a job with the skills I am looking for > rather than putting unneccesaary adjectives. The guy/gal who thinks they > are 'Top DBAs' usually post these postings :) (other than HR guys of > course and I dont blame them because they dont have expertise). >