>I'm pretty sure you can use database control without these plugins. Correct >I think you have to do a custom install and deselect these items. No, you don't have to do a custom install - but yes, you do have to deselect them in the EM Setup (I already provided instructions on how to do that) > It's 2k per instance you manage from that database control Database Control is only for a single instance anyway. Grid Control is the product to use for multiple instances, but yes, you're right - you have to pay per instance for the management packs. Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.