Re: CommVault - dedup and software compression

  • From: Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 19:18:51 -0400

Hi Sandy,
I can think of several things, starting with a Commvault bug, unusable deduplication database or compression inadvertently inserted somewhere in the process, by not removing "use storage policy options" from the storage device form. There is also a file called "SIDB.log" somewhere on your system. That is the log created by deduplication process. My advice would be to upload the logs and call in a ticket. Do you want me to alert your account managers? They could get you support resources really quickly.
Regards

On 10/21/2016 02:28 PM, Sandra Becker wrote:

No, we are not using RMAN compression or encryption. We have gone ahead and done compression, no dedupe on the archivelog only backups, but we're using dedupe, no compression on the default backups.

Sandy

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Ruel, Chris <Chris.Ruel@xxxxxxx <mailto:Chris.Ruel@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Are you using RMAN compression or encryption on the datafiles as
    they come out of the database for backup?  It is often recommended
    to turn these features off for dedup activity to perform it’s best.

    For reference: http://kb.commvault.com/article/ORA0001
    <http://kb.commvault.com/article/ORA0001>

    Chris..

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    Chris Ruel * Oracle Database Administrator * Lincoln Financial Group

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    <mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Sandra Becker
    *Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2016 11:16 AM
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    *Subject:* CommVault - dedup and software compression

    CommVault v11

    Oracle Database versions 11g and 12c

    We have been configuring clients and scheduling backups in
    CommVault for about 3 months now. While most backups work well and
    dedup as expected, we have concerns about two very large Exadata
    databases.  The production database is 34T and the backup is
    taking 4-5 days.  After pruning as much data as possible in the
    test database, it is down to 9T, with the latest backup taking
    just over 23 hours.  Prior to pruning, backups were taking 3-4
    days.  It doesn't appear that the dedup feature is actually being
    used for either backup.  I know that our CV admin opened a ticket
    with support, who in turn killed my production backup so they
    could test something.  I was not happy since I was never consulted
    before they killed the backup. But I digress. Unfortunately, we
    have only a 1GB NIC to handle most of the backup traffic which
    means throttling our backups more severely than originally
    planned.  We do have a request to replace the 1GB with a 10GB, but
    it doesn't look like that will happen any time soon.  So, a couple
    of questions:

    1.  What would cause the dedup feature to not be used?  I know for
    the test database we imported several hundred GB of data in the
    past week and obviously, that would not be deduped. The production
database is a data warehouse, loading less than 100GB per day. Any other possible causes?

    2.  If we turn on software compression on the client, what
    effect/impact will that have, if any, on the deduplication?

I haven't been able to find the answers in the documenation yet. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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