RE: Cloning Oracle versus Installing from OUI

  • From: "Matthew Zito" <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:45:03 -0400

Sorry to jump in on this so late, but it's a very interesting
conversation, and one that is near and dear to my heart.

The division of labor between the sysadmin and the DBA in Oracle
environments varies wildly from organization to organization.  The
installation of Oracle alone is something that requires root privileges
at one step at least, not to mention the patches, prereqs, etc. that are
described here.  This gets even worse with RAC and technologies like
ASM, where there's storage and cluster-level interaction.

I have seen shops where the sysadmins install oracle, and shops where
there's a DBA team JUST for installing Oracle, and everything in
between.  YMMV.

When companies come to us for database automation, provisioning
automation is one of the biggest requests, because organizations are
tired of the back-and-forth between systems and DBA teams, not to
mention the complexities of standardizing the provisioning process.   In
general, you want to reduce the number of people who have to touch the
provisioning process, and if you can get it down to one person, from
OS->storage->prereqs->database, that's the way to get the fastest, most
stable database provisioning process.


Matthew Zito
Chief Scientist
GridApp Systems
P: 646-452-4090

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nuno Souto
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Cloning Oracle versus Installing from OUI
> Kevin Closson wrote,on my timestamp of 30/09/2006 12:03 AM:
> >>>>I do not understand why you, as a dba, need to install 
> software on a 
> >>>>server. This is the job of the server administrator.
> >
> > Does anyone agree with this?  Do sys admins install Oracle 
> these days?
> In my previous job, it was the sysadmin who did the Oracle 
> install.  Mainly because it was me and I was the dba as well...
> but in most cases I know of, the dbas do the oracle installs. 
>  In close collaboration with the sysadmins, of course: the 
> sheer number of patches that needs to be installed/verified 
> in most Unix and Linux sites precludes any other solution.
> --
> Cheers
> Nuno Souto
> in sunny Sydney, Australia
> dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> --
> //

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