Well if optimiser_mode=3Drule with stats doesn't invoke CBO then I = wonder why OEM is providing me with cost data?? Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -----Original Message----- From: Keith Moore [mailto:kmoore7@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:59 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Changes to RULE based optimizer between Oracle8 and 9i -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis -- We tried both queries with and without statistics. Same results. Are you sure about OPIMIZER_MODE=3DRULE invoking the CBO if there are = statistics. The Reference manual says otherwise (not that it's never = been wrong). ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Goulet, Dick=20 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: RE: Changes to RULE based optimizer between Oracle8 and 9i Logic says one thing, experience says another. Question one, are the = tables analyzed? If so, since RBO is deprecated in 9i even setting = OPTIMIZER_MODE=3DRULE will invoke the CBO. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA=20 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Moore [mailto:kmoore7@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 11:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Changes to RULE based optimizer between Oracle8 and 9i We move an application that uses OPTIMIZER_MODE=3DRULE from Oracle8 = to 9i. Most of it is fine, but there are two queries that have a very = different execution plan. In one case, the execution time increases from = less than a minute to more than an hour. Neither query uses any of the = new Oracle 9i features. My understanding is that the Rule optimizer code has not changed, = except to account for new features like IOT's. Has anyone else seen this = type of behavior? Keith Moore Oracle Certified Professional 972-431-5126 kmoore7@xxxxxxxxxxxx -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis -- -- Desc: Signature The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that your access is unauthorized, and any = review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message including any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------