Re: Certifications don't count! (from a good test-taker)

  • From: hrishy <hrishys@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:26:38 +0000 (GMT)


I was reading a article yesterday about Ruby on Rails (RoR) and whether this 
technology is really enterprise ready there were many arguments the geeks 
argued with zeal saying Ruby has this and that etc..There was one guy who said 
to truly become enterprise class the big dadies of consulting like Wipro 
BearingPoint ,Accenture etc have to start supporing the language and they have 
to have architects dedicated to this.

The article is there for you guys to read.

Now what does RoR has got to do with Oracle DBA and Certifications well nothing 
really but there seems to be a slight parallel DBA's dont always make the 
hiring decisions i know of several organisations where in order to even get in 
you need to have a OCP no weather a OCP candidate is good or not thats 
debeatable but the point is having a OCP make you eligible to have face to face 
with the technical guys should give you the idea of whats in store for you 


--- On Tue, 10/6/08, Nuno Souto <dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Nuno Souto <dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Certifications don't count! (from a good test-taker)
> To: 
> Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, 10 June, 2008, 6:25 AM
> Hmmm, given that there are around 200 there and it is
> worldwide, I'd say basing interview selection criteria
> on solely the producing of an OCM is a bit short-sighted...
> Who knows, there might actually be good dbas out there
> who don't give a fig about paying through their noses
> for a "certification"?
> Cheers
> Nuno Souto
> in (finally!) sunny Sydney, Australia
> dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dan Norris wrote,on my timestamp of 10/06/2008 1:44 AM:
> > For verification, you can just look online at 
> >
> > 
> > If they aren't listed there, they may still be an
> OCM, but if they're on 
> > the page, they're an OCM since Oracle Ed maintains
> that page. As far as 
> > I know, OCM credentials have no expiration, though at
> some point, 
> > they're probably outdated and not much help.
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > daniel koehne wrote:
> >> A couple of years ago I got very frustrated when
> dealing with Oracle
> >> Certifications. On both occasions I needed Oracle
> to verify that a
> >> certification was valid (i.e. the person claiming
> to have a
> >> certification actually had one) but Oracle went
> out of their way to
> >> make verification difficult. When I needed to
> verify my certification
> >> to a perspective employer I got some mail stating
> that verifying
> >> certifications may take up to 2 weeks and the
> verification ended up
> >> taking a 8 business days. The other time I wanted
> to verify someone's
> >> claimed OCM and Oracle said that we needed
> permission from the person
> >> we were interviewing to start the verification
> process and that
> >> verification would take up to 2 weeks--I was
> suspicious about the
> >> initial OCM claim so this person was filed in the
> circular filing
> >> cabinet because of all the hassle.
> >>
> >> I have also had trouble proving to Oracle
> certification folks that I
> >> have taken the required OCP Oracle class.
> >>
> >> With Microsoft, I believe that the person with the
> certification can
> >> give you a number and you go to a Microsoft web
> site and are able to
> >> verify any certification claims very quickly.
> --

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