RE: Case study for interviewing Oracle DBA

  • From: "Yen, Eric" <EYen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <wisernet100@xxxxxxxxx>, <bbellows@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:48:24 -0800

The darn thing about it now a day is that all those certifications are
becoming check boxes for HR screening. It so much easier now for a HR
person to screen individuals out before you get a chance to say a word
to the hiring manager.

I would trade my certification for an additional 5 years of real world
experience any time.

The best people that I know of that are DBAs all have a couple of
things in common. One commonality that I have seen among top DBAs is the
hunger to know as much as possible about the craft of being a DBA.=20

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Subject: Re: Case study for interviewing Oracle DBA

I'm going to have to cut from this or I'll get bounced for
overquoting.....  inline

> Just to be painfully clear, I wasn't in computing 30 years ago... I
> in a mere 28 years ago, but I hope you'll find me qualified

I was -- a "mere" 30 years come August, if you don't add in my time in
HS and college taking computer classes.

> Back in the Dark Ages of computing the "system" such as it was, was a
> bunch of companies and universities spending big bucks to put in
> hardware in the hopes that it would someday pay for itself.  Back in
> those days, there was no such thing as a CS degree.  I was in a

um, sorry but yes there was -- and I have one to prove it. Second
class at my college to have a real honest-to-god degree in Computer
Science (used to be part of the math department).  But we were an
anomoly and the Computer Science department was run from one of those
Quonset hut type buildings -- the college didn't know what to do with
us :)

> Science Foundation study for young engineers, and, if you wanted to go
> into CS, there were two ways to go: via Mathematics or via Electrical
> Engineering.  Oh, and there was a third way: not getting a degree.
> vast majority of really good CS people back then didn't have one, and
> lot of the old geeks still don't.  What they were, what *we* were, was
> clever with an insatiable appetite for driving the technology to do
> more, go further, faster, better, than it was able to. =3D20

many of my friends. LOTS and LOTS of my friends which is one of the
reasons I get so worked up about the meaningfulness of OCP etc (and
I'll save that rant for another time, it's old news).

Some of the smartest people I know don't have a college degree. What
they have is a seemingly unquenchable thirst for knowledge. Good marks
in school and on standardized tests don't necessarily prove how smart
you are or how well you can problem-solve.


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