RE: Backup RMAN on disk and tape at the same time

  • From: "Marquez, Chris" <CMarquez@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <Paula_Stankus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <lucdemanche@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:28:36 -0400

No offense taken...really no offense taken.
But I have to say that this is one of the benefits of a properly
configured  Oracle->RMAN->MML-Agent->Tape environment.
Oracle(RMAN) and Tape become a client server relationship and thus the
DBA doesn't need to "go to" the SA to get the backup from tape.

But again the emphases is on "properly configured (MML-Agent/Tape)
environment"...No offense. ;o)

Chris Marquez
Oracle DBA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paula_Stankus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:12 AM
To: Marquez, Chris; lucdemanche@xxxxxxxxx
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Subject: RE: Backup RMAN on disk and tape at the same time


No offense but the weakest link has been the sys. Admin and the tape
issues.  So, when I need a backup/recovery I would like to be able to
get my own hands on it as soon as possible without other human
intervention.  That is why I would not prefer to disk - then someone
copy to tape. =20

Sorry - just over the years not a good experience with reliability in
that area.  Personally, DBA's talk to users and working intimately with
data quality and cleanup data, massage data, ensure systems are running.
Therefore, we are always closer to the users and the data systems.  No
offense but system admins. Are just a bit too removed and I don't get
the impression that they always understand the full import of what they
are doing.  I will also say that my experience with sys. Admins. Has
been in 4 organizations - one private and the rest state.   Some where
much better than others.  However, all of them had a bit of a removed
relationship from the users and systems we were all supporting.  I think
that is part of the job description.

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marquez, Chris
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:00 AM
To: lucdemanche@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Backup RMAN on disk and tape at the same time

Luc,

>>I'm doing a backup of my backupset to tape.

Can I assume that you are using the TDPO Agent to do the "backup of
backupset (to tape)".

Little curious as to why you bought the TDPO Agent...could you have done
RMAN to disk and the left Tivoli TSM do the filesystem backup to
move/copy your RMAN backups to tape.

I do understand that by using TDPO Agent you don't have to wait for the
SA to put the filesystem backup, back on disk...you can go get "backup
of backupset" yourself using RMAN...guess I answered my own
question...maybe?

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luc Demanche
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 6:14 PM
To: Vitalis
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Backup RMAN on disk and tape at the same time


Vitalis,

I guess I found something.
I'm doing my regular backup on disk, and after I'm doing a backup of my
backupset to tape.

backup backupset completed after 'sysdate-1';

It's fine ...

Luc

On 4/21/05, Vitalis <vitalisman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 4/21/05, Luc Demanche <lucdemanche@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Oracle 9.2.0.4 and Tivoli.
> >
> > My RMAN backups are running fine since few months.  We just
> > bought=3D20 the agent for Tivoli.
> >
> > I would like to know is someone tried to create there RMAN=3D20
> > backupsets either on disk and tape in the same time?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Luc
> > --=3D3D3D20
> > Luc Demanche
> > Oracle DBA
> > (514) 867-9977
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>=3D3D20
> Hi Luc,
>=3D3D20
> Do you mean: simultaneously write each backup piece to disk and to =
=3D20

>tape? Some sort of backup duplexing to 2 different media types? No, =
=3D20

>that's not possible. =3D3D20  Regards,  Jerome =3D3D20


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Oracle DBA
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