RE: Background Checks for DBAs

  • From: <Joel.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <cemail_219@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:35:31 -0500

I'm thinking it would be a surprise if you had recourse except the
choice to leave -- a lawyer could tell you if you stood a chance in
*(&_. -- and much of that might depend upon whether this tidbit was
buried in documents you may have received upon hire or later.

The corporation essentially is an environment where you do not have
rights.  You have the right to apply for employment -- I hope they
disclosed this tidbit during the hiring process -- and indeed would not
be surprised if the little tidbit was buried in some paragraph

In a corporation, you can be recorded anywhere -- even in the
bathroom... even in a department store as far as I know... about the
only restriction is putting a camera in the stall... for example.   Your
email can be (and is) recorded -- (I think by law now).  Your keystokes
could be recorded if they wanted.  Your phone can be recorded, your
internet recorded and monitored.  Drug testing.

Get the picture.   You want the job, you take it.   You want another
job, you should get it before you quit.   This would make it part of
'working conditions' verses 'compensation' that the company provide in
competition with other companies -- that you are willing to accept - or

But legally, I couldn't tell you if it is mandatory.   I would seek a
lawyer, but with the caveat that in some states, like FL, it is a right
to work state -- meaning that you can be let go for any reason at any

Corporations have more control on your life than China does on it's
citizens.   They are actually trying to control what you do off the job
-- in some cases in the name of insurance, like smoking, and the list
goes on.

Joel Patterson
Database Administrator
904  727-2546
-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MacGregor, Ian A.
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:59 AM
To: cemail_219@xxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Background Checks for DBAs

There are many places where background checks are becoming more common.
The access to information by DBA's at credit card companies and other
such  entities can lure folks with criminal intent.  I want these people
well-vetted.  Not all information which needs to be protected is a
matter of national security.  There is a great effort these days to
protect, PII, Personally Identifiable Information.  There is a
likelihood that DBA's with access to this information working in
government, or FOR a government contractor will require NACI's, National
Agency Checks (with Interrogatories?) -- the "Are you now or have you
ever been?" type questions.  This same scrutiny is used to grant secret
clearances, i.e. access to information, the release of which could cause
grave danger to national security. 

Of course the customers wants to do their own checks.  Why should they
trust your company to do them?  I'm surprised, however, that there isn't
a third trusted company which could say that you are already vetted.
The information is not such that each company needs to see the
investigation files. 

As far as privacy is concerned.  You definitely have the right to refuse
the investigation or to provide none of the requested information.  The
customer has the right however to take his business elsewhere.

Most information theft is by People who have legitimate access.  

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center    

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of J. Dex
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:13 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Background Checks for DBAs

Does anybody work in a Data Center type of environment which houses 
databases for multiple/various clients (both government and private 
companies)?    How are background checks handled?  The reason that I ask
that everytime we acquire a new client, the new client is putting us
yet another background check.  These are not Security Clearances.  They
either Certificate of Public Trusts or general background checks.  Our 
company isn't doing the background check, it is the client themselves.
is becoming ridiculous and we really don't want to keep giving out our
numbers to multiple companies, etc.  Our company wants us to be able to 
cover any of the databases at any time so they are making us go through
checks each time.  I am not sure if there are any Right to Privacy laws
prevent the employer from forcing us to do this and I am wondering if
other DBAs on the list are subjected to this.

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