RE: BINARIES - San or Local Storage

  • From: "Loughmiller, Greg" <greg.loughmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:59:11 -0500

I have read this thread, and haven't seen any one mention hardware
clustering and your file systems..
We typically run every database in a HW clustering config (SUN cluster,
Veritas VCS,etc). We found that placing the binaries on the SAN allowed us
to "fail over" a little more effectively. Just one way of doing it.... Works
better with our overall strategy. When the hardware goes "south", the
resource groups have the Oracle binaries defined as a component, the file
systems for the binaries/data files fail over to the member node of the
cluster.

Another "standard" has been to use the internal drives for OS required items
(TMP, SWAP, /opt, /home , etc). All products/applications get to live on the
SAN. Now there are exceptions as vendors like to force the use of specific
file systems(why?) like /etc or /var/opt.

greg

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Montalvo [mailto:montalvo2@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:45 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: BINARIES - San or Local Storage

Kathy,

If the local disk are NOT mirrored (either RAID-5 or RAID-1), I put them on 
the SAN.
That way I dont worry about a disk failure wiping out my binaries and 
config files.

HOWEVER, if the local disks are not mirrored it might mean that the root 
disk is not mirrored, which make me more nervous.
Having RAC and all the redundancy from the SAN means little if your UNIX 
kernel root disk is not mirrored!

If your local disk ARE mirrored, as they should be for a High Availability 
system, then I have no problem putting the binaries on the local MIRRORED 
disks.

Yes, SAN *sequential* read performance is higher that local disks, but 
really, most of the time the reads occur when starting up the 
instance.  After that there is hardly any activity on the disks.

Periodically there are writes to the alert log and trace files, but they 
are very low volume and hardly constitute a bottleneck for the system.  All 
your datafiles, including archive logs and redo logs, should be on the SAN.

Do you want to share/fail over your binaries with another host?  Most 
likely no, so less of a reason to put them on the SAN.

Walter



At 02:10 PM 8/26/2004, you wrote:
>We are in the process of moving to 10G and getting a new SAN EMC Clarion
>Storage Array.  We also MAY be going to RAC.  These are Solaris Boxes
>
>The question is I have read conflicing things about whether to put the
>binaries on the local internal disks or the SAN arrays.
>
>I have always put the binaries on the local internal disk.  What do you do
>and why?
>
>Is the local reads for the binaries that much quicker?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kathy
>Oracle Database Monkey
>
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