Re: Another License Review

  • From: Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ora_kclosson@xxxxxxxxx, gdherri@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 18:10:19 -0400

Well, if we are talking about canned applications, SAP R3 works on all mentioned databases. Development tools like DBeaver and SQL Squirrel are also pretty good. Eclipse has lots of modules, too. Solarwinds can monitor all of them. So can Nagios or Zabbix. The question is a bit too broad. The client should be looking for the applications of interest only.


On 11/01/2017 05:39 PM, ora_kclosson@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

What sort of app did that customer have that gives them the freedom to think about a different RDBMS? Surely no Oracle "4GLs" (Forms, APEX, etc). Is it all Java with ORM like Hibernate?

On Nov 1, 2017 1:15 PM, Dave Herring <gdherri@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    I'm now finally involved with a client who has gone down this road
    and Oracle lost the discussion.  Of course legally I can neither
    confirm nor deny how many millions were involved in the ULA that
    was cancelled along with neither confirming nor denying any
    outright effort to move to a different vendor. :-)

    Dave

    On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Mladen Gogala
    <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Audits are back, for some time now:

        http://fortune.com/2015/09/14/oracle-plays-hardball/
        <http://fortune.com/2015/09/14/oracle-plays-hardball/>

        The best way to stop that practice is to change the DB vendor.
        Fortunately, there are 3 large competitors to Oracle Corp:
        Microsoft, IBM and SAP. Oracle will stop doing that when they
        lose sufficient number of customers. It's called "market
        economy". Technological gap between Oracle and their
        competitors has shrunk significantly. SQL Server 2016 and DB2
        11.1 are excellent databases which can do almost anything that
        Oracle can do. DB2 can even execute PL/SQL natively. I am not
        so sure about SAP Hana, but there is an increasing number of
        adopters. One way of avoiding vendor lock-in is using
        Java-based MVC frameworks like Spring and Hibernate. I would
        avoid applications written specifically for Oracle and always
        consider database neutral alternatives, should they exist.

        Regards


        On 11/01/2017 01:17 PM, Chris Taylor wrote:

            I think I read a few months (a year?) that Oracle had
            stepped up its license reviews as a way to generate revenue.

            I'll have to see if I can find it again.

            Chris


-- Mladen Gogala
        Oracle DBA
        Tel:(347) 321-1217 <tel:%28347%29%20321-1217>




-- Dave



--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
Tel: (347) 321-1217

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