I don't believe that Net::Daemon will work under Windoze. The only daemons I have personally created have been via Dave Roth's Win32::Daemon. These are daemons on that interact with services.exe. It may be possible to subvert HTTP::Daemon for use as Net::Daemon, but I really don't know. When I need to interact with something on a Windows system, I tend to do it with this checklist in mind: * should this be done in Perl? * if so, can I do it from a linux box? * darn, looks like this has to be done from the server. If it has to be done on the server, and Perl is the tool of choice, I try to minimize the number of components. ie. I don't want to rely on Cygwin. I will install Perl, and the modules needed to do the job. I've don't try to setup the Cygwin Perl to use DBD::Oracle, etc. Instead, I just use the Active State perl when in a Cygwin shell, which I only do from my laptop. Jared Stefan Jahnke <Stefan.Jahnke@xxxxxx> Sent by: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 02/17/2004 10:32 AM Please respond to oracle-l To: "'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc: Subject: AW: Oracle 10g for Windows Hi Jared Since you are the list's official Perl guru: Speaking of making impossible things possible: Is there a way of getting a DBI::Proxy server=20 to work under windows using Active State (5.6)? I needed to install Net::Daemon and PlRPC,=20 but I keep getting Net::Daemon errors reporting=20 non-implemented methods needed by dbiproxy. I would like to use that to run perl scripts=20 that were developed on and for unix to be run=20 on Cygwin, connecting to a local dbiproxy running=20 on Win2k (ActiveState Perl). Any chance? 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For this reason we would ask = for your understanding that, for your own protection and ours, we must = decline all legal responsibility for the validity of the statements and = comments given above. -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jared Still [mailto:jkstill@xxxxxxxxxx] Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Februar 2004 17:03 An: Oracle-L Freelists Betreff: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows Robert, The point with several of these items is that they=20 are not provided with the OS. Re the services: stopping and starting a service will not pick modifications to the environment. It requires a reboot. As for your comment on Perl: You don't appear to have too much experience with it. Perl makes hard things easy, and impossible things possible. :) Jared On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 06:48, Freeman Robert - IL wrote: > Comments inline ... >=20 > RF >=20 > -----Original Message----- >=20 > >> What I dislike about working with Oracle on Windows: >=20 > >> * No decent scheduler. Yes there is 'at'. Like I said... > Good point, though this should be less of an issue with the new = Oracle > Database 10g Scheduler, which is supposed to be able to kick off = external > programs (including batch programs). I have not played with this = specific > bit of functionality much, but what I have played with worked. >=20 > >> * Installing Perl on win32 with all needed modules has become a=20 > >> monumental pain in the rear. > Hmmmmmm..... Another reason that Perl just isn't one of my fav. = scripting > languages. >=20 > >> * Why can't MS provide a semi-decent code editor. > >> Yeah, notepad. Right. > and vi or ed is any better??? Granted, once you learn vi, it's pretty cool, > but in the begining? UGH! My vote for best windows editor is = textpad.... > hands down the best editor I've ever used. >=20 > Anyone remember an editor called EC? Do they still make it? >=20 > >> * Command line utilities. You think unix/linux is arcane? > Actually, you can do a lot at the command line in NT.... Of course, = it's not > as robust as UNIX (have yet to find, for example, a fold command). = Still, if > you are some C or basic coding experience or you are adept at the = web, it's > not too bad.=20 >=20 > >> * The fact that an incredibly robust PIPE implementation is built = in, > >> but there is no access from the command line. And that Oracle is = built > >> with the MS stdlib ( think that's the sitation ) so even > >> when you get 3rd party tools that work with PIPE's, they won't = work > >> with Oracle. > Ok, I agree, this has been an issue with me as well.=20 >=20 > >> * The fact that there are still drive letters. > Ahhhh, so what? :-) Drive letters, mount points, who cares?=20 >=20 >=20 > >> * That MS has *finally* got around to offering unix like = utilities, but > >> wants $100 for them, on top of the money you've already paid for = the=20 > >> OS. > I've seen NT related UNIX utilities around for a while (don't recall = if they > were MS though).=20 >=20 > >> * That it took until Win23k for MS to design the system to allow > >> different versions of apps to have different versions of DLL's. > >> Lesse, we've been doing this on unix for 30 years or so? > Hey, we all have growing pains! :-) >=20 > >> * The stupid Oracle home selector that is strictly a GUI. > I have yet to use the Oracle home selector. Of course, I'm an old = Oracle > command line guy.... OEM gives me a rash. >=20 > >> * That whenever a change in environment is made that needs to be = picked > >> up by an existing or new service, you must reboot because there is = no > >> other way to reset the environment seen by services.exe. > Can't you just stop and restart the service? How often does one need = to > change the environment in production anyway (hopefully not that often = once > it's stable!) >=20 > >> Mind you now, Oracle runs just fine on win32. It's maintaining it = and > >> working with the environment that is so annoying, and made = difficult > >> where it shouldn't be. > For me, the scheduler has been the biggest issue of all of these. = Frankly, > the others don't cause me much of an issue. Each platform has it's = good and > bad side. Which would I prefer, Oracle on UNIX... but I just don't = think > Windows is that bad. >=20 > Jared >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 12:26, Freeman Robert - IL wrote: > > My 2 cents... > >=20 > > Most of the complaints I see about Oracle on Win here are either: > >=20 > > 1. By people doing it for the first time, or who rarely do it. > > 2. By people who are doing Oracle for the first time, or rarely do = it. > >=20 > > I actually like Oracle on Win, and I agree with Tom, I've had few > problems > > with it. > >=20 > > I agree that installing service packs is maddening, but don't most > Unix OS > > upgrades of any great import seem to require a reboot?=20 > >=20 > > Robert > >=20 > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Koivu, Lisa > > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: 2/13/2004 12:53 PM > > Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows > >=20 > > Hi Tom,=3D20 > >=20 > > Are you kidding? You never have to install service packs and > reboot?=3D20 > >=20 > > We run windows 2003 and our "vice president" in IT decided that as = a > > corporate standard we should turn on auto-update and let the boxes > > reboot themselves. Excuse me??=3D20 > >=20 > > The more I work on Windows, the more I do not like it. However, = I'm > in > > the same boat as you. You make do with what you are given when you > are > > not personally paying the bill. > >=20 > > Lisa Koivu > > Senior Monkey > > Orlando, FL, USA > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mercadante, Thomas F > > [mailto:thomas.mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:58 AM > > To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > > Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows > >=20 > > Unfortunately, we have to put up with unrealistic comments like = these. > > let > > me repeat it again for those who forget: > >=20 > > Some of us have no choice in the operating system that we work = with. > > And > > some of us are running systems under a Windows environment and are > > perfectly > > happy with how things run, and *never ever* have the "problems" = that > get > > reported here. =3D20 > >=20 > > I have windows databases that have been running for 3 years now. > > *Never* > > does the machine crash. And *never* do we reboot "just because we > > should". > >=20 > > If you experience bad things, then I suggest you take it up with = your > > system > > admin. More than likely, somebody was allowed to treat a database > > server > > like a personal desktop. > >=20 > > Just my 2 cents. > >=20 > > Tom Mercadante > > Oracle Certified Professional > >=20 > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jamadagni, Rajendra [mailto:Rajendra.Jamadagni@xxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:46 AM > > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows > >=20 > >=20 > > Remind me again .. is this oracle-l forum or slashdot ?? > >=20 > > <g> > >=20 > > Raj > > > = ------------------------------------------------------------------------= > > -=3D3D > > ------- > > Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com > > All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. > > QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! > >=20 > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David Sharples > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:44 AM > > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows > >=20 > >=20 > > Define dominant? > >=20 > > The chances of Linux overtaking the average desktop in the world = are > > pretty slim and Linux is not really mature enough to run enterprise > > level stuff - maybe soon it will be. > >=20 > > Sun and HP are Windows are still more widely used (rightly or = wrongly) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > > -- > > Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > > FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > > -- > > Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > > FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > >=20 > > "The sender believes that this E-Mail and any attachments were free = of > =3D > > any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. = This =3D > > message and its attachments could have been infected during =3D > > transmission. 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