One example of a bug (now fixed) is on my website under the URL http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/bustbits.html It was a test designed to highlight the problems of single-row updates on bitmapped indexed columns (now improved in 10g), but caught a bug in ASSM relating to excessive space allocation. Another, already mentioned I think, relates to bitmaps not being fixed on rollback; As a simple test try this (ASSM tablespace, 8K block): create table t1 (v1 varchar2(100)) pctfree 90 pctused 10; insert into t1 select rpad('x',100) from all_objects where rownum <= 100 ; analyze table t1 compute statistics; select blocks from user_tables where table_name = 'T1'; -- will probably be about 16, may vary according to your process id truncate table t1; insert into t1 select rpad('x',100) from all_objects where rownum <= 100 ; rollback; insert into t1 select rpad('x',100) from all_objects where rownum <= 100 ; analyze table t1 compute statistics; select blocks from user_tables where table_name = 'T1'; -- will probably be about 32, may vary according to your process id -- for a DMT, both results will be about 14 on an 8K block size. The index problem relates to clustering factor. ASSM works by "randomly" distributing row inserts across a small number of blocks in a table. The clustering_factor of an index is used to obtain a measure of how "non-random" the row distribution is. Spot the conflict of interest. If you have important requirements that follow the PATTERN of the following: create index (order_date, sequence_number) on ... select * from .. where order date = {const} Then data that arrived in an FMT (freelist managed tablespace) would give the index a perfect clustering factor (matches blocks in table), data arriving in a PMT (page-table managed tablespace) would give the index a disastrous clustering factor. I have a demonstration case - not complex, but tedious to set up because of the required concurrency - that shows an efficient indexed access path an FMT, turning into a pointless and expensive tablescan on PMT because of this. (Note - the same problem arises with multiple freelists. But ASSM (PMT) has an effect on every single table in the tablespace; whereas you choose very carefully which tables you want have with multiple freelists, and work around the side effects). I don't have bug numbers. I stopped reporting things like this some time ago. It was too much like hard work persuading the support staff that there was a problem. (As soon as you say "I can work around it", it's an uphill problem getting it on to the people who understand the issue). Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html March 2004 Hotsos Symposium - The Burden of Proof Dynamic Sampling - an investigation March 2004 Charlotte OUG (www.cltoug.org) CBO Tutorial April 2004 Iceland June 2004 UK - Optimising Oracle Seminar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Koivu, Lisa" <Lisa.Koivu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:37 PM Subject: RE: 9i - ASSM Jonathan, can you expand on the bugs you reference and how the CBO is fooled? We have the same debate going on here. If you have bug numbers and a nice example of the CBO choking, that would be very helpful. Thank you Lisa Koivu Orlando, FL, USA ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------